J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VI

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siegecrossbow

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Now this is big news if it true

That's interesting, a J-20 with Chinese WS-10x engines ...

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Pretty sure that's an old photograph. Also, J-20 has been testing with WS-10 since early this year I believe.
 
Now this is big news if it true

That's interesting, a J-20 with Chinese WS-10x engines ...

DexX_ShVMAIZ6UN.jpg
you beat me to it Hendrik... by perhaps two minutes LOL congrats

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Voilà ce qui est intéressant, un J-20 avec des moteurs chinois WS-10x...

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This is interesting, a J-20 with Chinese engines WS-10x...
 

KlRc80

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So the J-20 is confirmed to have side facing radars on the cheeks.

None of the visually obvious items at the side seem large enough to be significant radar arrays.

But if we take the example of the SU-24MR side radars, the outer panel need not seem to be visually obvious neither in terms of colour nor physical bumps:

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I mean a side radar could for all we know be lurking behind the panel below:

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SU-57's example nelow:
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I mean a side radar could for all we know be lurking behind the panel below:

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SU-57's example nelow:
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If there was a side looking radar behind that panel, then that panel would be in gray similar to the radome and other parts of the unpainted J-20. EO sensors are in shades of brown while other sensors are in shades of gray (edges of the canards, LERX, main wing, etc).
 

KlRc80

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If there was a side looking radar behind that panel, then that panel would be in gray similar to the radome and other parts of the unpainted J-20. EO sensors are in shades of brown while other sensors are in shades of gray (edges of the canards, LERX, main wing, etc).

So you are saying colour at tbe unpainted stage is the important differentiating factor?

I was instead looking at examples that support the notion that radars can lurk behind any colour surface.
 

Deino

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But this is the first time we see it in flesh and NOT cartoon
Pretty sure that's an old photograph. Also, J-20 has been testing with WS-10 since early this year I believe.

To admit I don't know this image and it is also NOT 2021 ... so maybe the serial no. is erased, or it is another bird (maybe 2022)?

J-20A + WS-10B - 20180603 XXL.jpg
 
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Tirdent

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So you are saying colour at tbe unpainted stage is the important differentiating factor?

I was instead looking at examples that support the notion that radars can lurk behind any colour surface.

Even in the Su-24MR example the SLAR radome is the same white colour as the forward-looking radome and other RF apertures. You can't just paint over a radome with normal paint and expect it to retain the desired RF transmission characteristics. While there are various finishes available which may match the final colour of the surrounding structure, they will not be coated in primer, so at that stage they are generally very obvious. Quite apart from that, there is another aperture embedded quite far from the edge in that J-20 panel - not going to happen with a radome.

It's just a hatch for maintenance access to avionics LRUs sitting in that area.
 
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