J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VI

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Pmichael

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Report claims that researchers managed to reduce the RCS of a AESA radar used by a Chinese stealth fighter by a factor of several hundred.

I wouldn't be surprised if it just means China had still some problems with producing workable "Frequency Selective Surface"-materials.

Also for a fighter a successful stealth design would be if expected oppenent aircraft can detect the stealth design only if the fighter is already within the no-escape zone. So if that nebolous super SU-30MKI can detect the J-20 within a radius of 30-40km, which the N011M will never archive but whatever, then the stealth design can be called successful.
 

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Fighter 20 and a new generation of shipboard aircraft customized in the research of the long-range cruise missile is a rectangular shell, low infrared radiation characteristics, active radar, infrared imaging, the maximum range of 500 km anti-ship version of the autonomous search route planning function. The shells can be mounted up to four pieces.
 

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Fits in J-20's bays too. Definitely of the smaller variety of A2G ordnance.

Definitely not an unexpected development, though I'd wonder how such a weapon would be able to achieve 500km range while also fitting in four within the J-20's belly weapons bay, as well as the size of its warhead.


Still, having such a weapon for stand off missions -- that will likely be capable of striking both anti ship and anti surface targets -- will be a great enhancement to both J-20 and the future carrierborne 5th generation fighter.

I imagine a large number of this missile will be able to be carried by H-20 as well.
 

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500km... yeah no.

Definitely not impossible depending on flight profile; JSM is capable of over 300 nmi (over 555km) on a high-high-low profile (page 10
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Depending on the weight of the warhead and overall fuel fraction of this missile that is being discussed, a 500km range is far from implausible.
 

jobjed

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Definitely not an unexpected development, though I'd wonder how such a weapon would be able to achieve 500km range while also fitting in four within the J-20's belly weapons bay, as well as the size of its warhead.


Still, having such a weapon for stand off missions -- that will likely be capable of striking both anti ship and anti surface targets -- will be a great enhancement to both J-20 and the future carrierborne 5th generation fighter.

I imagine a large number of this missile will be able to be carried by H-20 as well.

The volumes of these missiles will be greater than a typical cylindrical AAM as pb said they were akin to rectangular prisms. It'll probably look like a smaller KEPD 350. Missiles like the PL-12 and PL-15 have fixed fins that require significant offset leading to wasted storage volume. A rectangular missile would be able to pack pretty tightly in the weapons bay, leading to something like 80% or more volume utilisation.

One half of the J-20's weapons bay is around 1m wide and 4m long, so two tightly-packed rectangular missiles could have dimensions of ~40cm wide and tall, and ~3.5m long. That's a decently sized missile, around that of the NSM. With long fold-out fins, which it almost definitely will have, it could fly quite a distance.
 
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A 500km range is believable, depending on the kind of engine that is fitted. It would either have to be a turbofan or a ramjet to achieve that range with that kind of size.
But having four in the weapons bay is kinda pushing it. Even if we are to be so generous as to assume that the volume of one of this cruise missiles with wings folded = 2 PL-12s. A J-20 could still only hold 2 at best while in stealth mode.
 
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