J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VI
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The background isn't but the shot of the plane is. The best version I can find of the original picture isn't high-definition, though, which is unfortunate.Is this real ?????
Is this real ?????
ah yes, and we've been waiting for one of those, shows that no matter how long the J-20 is?? (why are some folks obsessing about that??) it has more than adequate pitch authority thanks to Dr. Song and his teams "distant coupled canards",, they are extremely "long throw" and they will put the nose of that aircraft anywhere you want it, on a dime!
the implication from the "peanut gallery" that it lacks "pitch authority" because of its length,,, this is proof positive that the J-20 is very, very, maneuverable, something that we have emphatically stated all along!
Hendrik_2000
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Interesting article about J 20 Turn out it can be parked at ordinary hangar with no climatic control unlike F35. And 20 have been produced so far not sure the sources
The empty weight is given as 15 ton lighter than estimated by western analyst which will result in better maneuverability. Here is excerpt
Judging from these specs, the fighter will be more nimble in real combat than foreign estimates.
China hails its fifth generation J-20 stealth jet fighter
The brand-new air-superiority fighters, developed by Chengdu Aerospace Corporation, will be primarily deployed for precise and decapitation strikes
By ASIA TIMES STAFF NOVEMBER 20, 2017 5:19 PM
China’s J-20 jet fighters are no longer being kept away from the glare of the media since they entered service in March. Quite the opposite – party mouthpieces have been creating a buzz around the nation’s indigenous fifth-generation fighters, hailed as the cachet of the Chinese military’s air defense technology and manufacturing.
State broadcaster China Central Television aired an interview of a J-20 test pilot last week, who revealed that the brand-new air-superiority fighters, developed by Chengdu Aerospace Corporation, will be primarily deployed for precise and decapitation strikes, taking advantage of their all-aspect stealth even when armed, as well as low probability of radar interception.
A J-20 is seen in front of a hanger. Photo: CCTV
The hangar in the background of the above photo has also piqued intense interest: It appears that J-20s can be parked in an ordinary hangar rather than one with constant temperature and humidity, while the US Air Force’s multirole F-35 Lightning II fighters are very expensive to maintain as they must be kept in a highly regulated environment to protect their ultra-delicate stealth coatings.
This means J-20s are more economical and easier to manage and can respond to emergencies more quickly than F-35s, noted an observer.
It has been reported that the US and British militaries have decided to reduce the F-35’s airborne time, rather than splurging money on an aircraft that is mocked by Chinese media as “eye candy.”
Beijing-based military magazine Ordnance Industry Science and Technology has also revealed that J-20 appear to be 20.77 meters in length, featuring a long and slim fuselage, with a wingspan of 12.99 meters and merely 15 tons in empty operating weight, after analyzing photos of the fighters. Judging from these specs, the fighter will be more nimble in real combat than foreign estimates.
China unveiled its J-20 stealth fighter during an airshow in Zhuhai last year. Photo: Reuters
With its compact dimensions and airframe, the J-20 may have no limits on takeoff from or landing on the next generation of aircraft carriers, Chinese news portal Sina reports, citing a source with the Dalian Shipyard, where the construction of China’s first nuclear-powered carrier is said to have commenced.
No fewer than 20 J-20s have been delivered to the People’s Liberation Army Air Force, at a time when the Pentagon has stationed 12 F-35As at its Kadena Air Force Base in Japan’s Okinawa prefecture.
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The empty weight is given as 15 ton lighter than estimated by western analyst which will result in better maneuverability. Here is excerpt
Judging from these specs, the fighter will be more nimble in real combat than foreign estimates.
China hails its fifth generation J-20 stealth jet fighter
The brand-new air-superiority fighters, developed by Chengdu Aerospace Corporation, will be primarily deployed for precise and decapitation strikes
By ASIA TIMES STAFF NOVEMBER 20, 2017 5:19 PM
China’s J-20 jet fighters are no longer being kept away from the glare of the media since they entered service in March. Quite the opposite – party mouthpieces have been creating a buzz around the nation’s indigenous fifth-generation fighters, hailed as the cachet of the Chinese military’s air defense technology and manufacturing.
State broadcaster China Central Television aired an interview of a J-20 test pilot last week, who revealed that the brand-new air-superiority fighters, developed by Chengdu Aerospace Corporation, will be primarily deployed for precise and decapitation strikes, taking advantage of their all-aspect stealth even when armed, as well as low probability of radar interception.
A J-20 is seen in front of a hanger. Photo: CCTV
The hangar in the background of the above photo has also piqued intense interest: It appears that J-20s can be parked in an ordinary hangar rather than one with constant temperature and humidity, while the US Air Force’s multirole F-35 Lightning II fighters are very expensive to maintain as they must be kept in a highly regulated environment to protect their ultra-delicate stealth coatings.
This means J-20s are more economical and easier to manage and can respond to emergencies more quickly than F-35s, noted an observer.
It has been reported that the US and British militaries have decided to reduce the F-35’s airborne time, rather than splurging money on an aircraft that is mocked by Chinese media as “eye candy.”
Beijing-based military magazine Ordnance Industry Science and Technology has also revealed that J-20 appear to be 20.77 meters in length, featuring a long and slim fuselage, with a wingspan of 12.99 meters and merely 15 tons in empty operating weight, after analyzing photos of the fighters. Judging from these specs, the fighter will be more nimble in real combat than foreign estimates.
China unveiled its J-20 stealth fighter during an airshow in Zhuhai last year. Photo: Reuters
With its compact dimensions and airframe, the J-20 may have no limits on takeoff from or landing on the next generation of aircraft carriers, Chinese news portal Sina reports, citing a source with the Dalian Shipyard, where the construction of China’s first nuclear-powered carrier is said to have commenced.
No fewer than 20 J-20s have been delivered to the People’s Liberation Army Air Force, at a time when the Pentagon has stationed 12 F-35As at its Kadena Air Force Base in Japan’s Okinawa prefecture.
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SinoSoldier
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Take this article with a grain of salt; not only do we not know which aircraft will outfit the PLAN's future carriers, but the Type 002/3 is certainly not nuclear-powered and won't be built at Dalian. In fact, there isn't much evidence that the J-20 is even a contender for this role.
manqiangrexue
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The original report stated that J-20 was in the 15 tonne class, as the F-22, 19.7 tonnes, was in the 19 tonne class. This means that as defined by the author, anything from 15,000 up to just under 16,000kg is still 15 tonne class. Now this report straight says J-20 is 15 tons, which is 13,600kg, similar weight to F-35. This is how crazy rumors start LOLInteresting article about J 20 Turn out it can be parked at ordinary hangar with no climatic control unlike F35. And 20 have been produced so far not sure the sources
The empty weight is given as 15 ton lighter than estimated by western analyst which will result in better maneuverability. Here is excerpt
Judging from these specs, the fighter will be more nimble in real combat than foreign estimates.
China hails its fifth generation J-20 stealth jet fighter
The brand-new air-superiority fighters, developed by Chengdu Aerospace Corporation, will be primarily deployed for precise and decapitation strikes
By ASIA TIMES STAFF NOVEMBER 20, 2017 5:19 PM
China’s J-20 jet fighters are no longer being kept away from the glare of the media since they entered service in March. Quite the opposite – party mouthpieces have been creating a buzz around the nation’s indigenous fifth-generation fighters, hailed as the cachet of the Chinese military’s air defense technology and manufacturing.
State broadcaster China Central Television aired an interview of a J-20 test pilot last week, who revealed that the brand-new air-superiority fighters, developed by Chengdu Aerospace Corporation, will be primarily deployed for precise and decapitation strikes, taking advantage of their all-aspect stealth even when armed, as well as low probability of radar interception.
A J-20 is seen in front of a hanger. Photo: CCTV
The hangar in the background of the above photo has also piqued intense interest: It appears that J-20s can be parked in an ordinary hangar rather than one with constant temperature and humidity, while the US Air Force’s multirole F-35 Lightning II fighters are very expensive to maintain as they must be kept in a highly regulated environment to protect their ultra-delicate stealth coatings.
This means J-20s are more economical and easier to manage and can respond to emergencies more quickly than F-35s, noted an observer.
It has been reported that the US and British militaries have decided to reduce the F-35’s airborne time, rather than splurging money on an aircraft that is mocked by Chinese media as “eye candy.”
Beijing-based military magazine Ordnance Industry Science and Technology has also revealed that J-20 appear to be 20.77 meters in length, featuring a long and slim fuselage, with a wingspan of 12.99 meters and merely 15 tons in empty operating weight, after analyzing photos of the fighters. Judging from these specs, the fighter will be more nimble in real combat than foreign estimates.
China unveiled its J-20 stealth fighter during an airshow in Zhuhai last year. Photo: Reuters
With its compact dimensions and airframe, the J-20 may have no limits on takeoff from or landing on the next generation of aircraft carriers, Chinese news portal Sina reports, citing a source with the Dalian Shipyard, where the construction of China’s first nuclear-powered carrier is said to have commenced.
No fewer than 20 J-20s have been delivered to the People’s Liberation Army Air Force, at a time when the Pentagon has stationed 12 F-35As at its Kadena Air Force Base in Japan’s Okinawa prefecture.
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The bit about the more practical and durable RAM to increase utility I've never heard of and really hope it's true and not just conjecture because someone saw a picture of a J-20 temporarily parked under a tarmac hangar awaiting take-off.
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In most countries, ton is short for metric ton.
manqiangrexue
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I see that this is Asia Times, which is Hong Kong based so ok. But the point still stands that if an American reporter read this paper and regurgitated it for US media, he would likely not be mindful enough to note that ton in this case, is tonne and thus 1,000kg instead of 2,000 pounds, which is what ton means in the US. There is a much slimmer chance that he could dig to the original source and note that J-20 could weigh up to just under 16,000kg. So, as I said before, this is how crazy rumors start.
But I am making the assumption that his source is the same as ours. If it was independently obtained from ours, then it could not only support the claim we previously saw but it could mean that J-20 is actually very close to 15 tonnes rather than 16.
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The more interesting article is the one where the China News Agency is talking about China sharing the J-20's technologies with Russia. China, for what it's worth, does not have research efficiency: it takes a large budget for Chinese research agencies to get anywhere. Russia has tons of experience, but they're broke. Would be interesting to see China trade notes on the J-20 with the Russians.
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