J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VI

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latenlazy

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Looking at the amount of space the vertical stabilizers overlapped the tail boom compared to what would be the case if the camera is directly on top, the amount of perspective effect on the apparent length would actually be quite a bit.

Imo, the fact that the blocks are still about the same size means that the picture was software manipulated to reduce the effect of wide angle lens (for aesthetic reason), especially since lens surface distortion would not explain the perspective effect of the VT and the tail boom mentioned above.

One can just hope that the software dimension adjustment are reasonably accurate, which should be the case judging by the almost equal size of those blocks.
Hmm, didn’t think of that possibility, but it’s a good one. Software correction of distortion could fix proportion problems to some degree without remedying shape, given the right dimensional elements in the photo to work off of. That said, such corrections could just as easily cause other proportion issues. For example, I noticed when I was playing around with the picture to do my own estimates that even if you straighten the center J-16 in the pic both wingtips seem to be angled slightly inward. Whether that’s an artifact from perspective distortion or from distortion correction, it would suggest that there will be persistent potential problems with this picture that we will need to remain mindful of.
 

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I find it funny how a lack of new photos and videos almost inevitably leads either to circular aerodynamics debates or dimensional measurements.

That said, Deino's estimation chart for proto-type/inservice J-20s has gained recognition on a Chinese military forum. They are really impressed with his professionalism and some have speculated that Deino is either Pakistani, a CJDBY lurker, a spy, or a real military fan!

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latenlazy

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I find it funny how a lack of new photos and videos almost inevitably leads either to circular aerodynamics debates or dimensional measurements.

That said, Deino's estimation chart for proto-type/inservice J-20s has gained recognition on a Chinese military forum. They are really impressed with his professionalism and some have speculated that Deino is either Pakistani, a CJDBY lurker, a spy, or a real military fan!

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Surprised they'd be speculating about Deino's identity when it's basically public knowledge.
 

Deino

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I find it funny how a lack of new photos and videos almost inevitably leads either to circular aerodynamics debates or dimensional measurements.

That said, Deino's estimation chart for proto-type/inservice J-20s has gained recognition on a Chinese military forum. They are really impressed with his professionalism and some have speculated that Deino is either Pakistani, a CJDBY lurker, a spy, or a real military fan!

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Surprised they'd be speculating about Deino's identity when it's basically public knowledge.


Thanks ... so maybe we should invite them?
 

plawolf

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It is probably done to deter foreign agents on the Chinese internet, but truth be told it is more of a hassle for legit overseas posters than anything else.

There is a huge amount of fake news and completely illogical rumour spreading going on on the Chinese internet that defies all rime and reason such that it is almost certainly the result of foreign government sponsored PsycOps programmes.

Remember how there was this massive following of the ‘Jasmine Revolution’ on Chinese social media around the same time as the coloured revolutions of the Arab Spring? So much so that even the US ambassador rocked up to the supposed starting place only to find no one but oblivious Chinese shoppers and undercover Chinese security?

That was almost certainly created and sustained with a botnet or just good old fashioned manpower with a basement full of social engineers all with dozens or even hundreds of invented profiles all posting and re-posting to support each other in the hope of making something go viral and sucking in clueless internet zombies desperate to be the first to find the ‘next big thing’ online so they can brag to their friends and followers.

All of these media tricks didn’t start with the Trump campaign, it was widely used against China, Russia and anyone else certain western governments don’t like for decades as a matter of course. Trump was just the first to dare to use such methods against his own people.

The requirement for registration and verification was primarily introduced to tackle western government agency run social media programmes.

Sure, such government agencies could still obtain valid Chinese phone numbers for registration. But it adds costs, delays and risks to do so to get the thousands of numbers needed to set up an effective botnets.

Overseas Chinese are just collateral damage in this grand game unfortunately.
 

Deino

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... They are really impressed with his professionalism and some have speculated that Deino is either Pakistani, a CJDBY lurker, a spy, or a real military fan!

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Surprised they'd be speculating about Deino's identity when it's basically public knowledge.

:) ... no Pakistani, neither a CJDBY lurker and surely not a spy ... best is indeed "a real military fan" or just a crazy German. :D

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