J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread V

[Air Force Brat]

While I agree from a purely engineering standpoint, and the F-35 does provide some anecdotal evidence to support your view, the F-35 is what we got, and while its not an F-22, it will be much better than I had initially thought. For better or worse, China is closely emulating much our new SOP???

 

[dingyibvs]

That should mean you are wrong and not plausible. The conflation of the several strike fighter requirements has led to an increase in the development time and the aircraft resulting are compromised by requirements that are foreign to their own needs. It is much better to take all experience won and start a new project for the aircraft with different requirements. That is especially valuable for China that has no previous experience with developing a low observable aircraft.

First of all, It's the B variant that really screwed the F-35, not the C variant.

Second of all, it's not unreasonable for China to take the Russian route of modifying air force fighters into carrier-borne fighters. It'll depend on how many carriers and how big of an air wing China requires. With only a couple of smaller carriers, it made no sense for the Russians to design an entirely new aircraft, so Mig-29K and Su-33 would do. With 11 supercarriers, it made a whole lot of sense for the Americans to design a whole new aircraft.

Of course, with the F-35, not only did they not do that, they went a step further and incorporated the B variant into the design. I'm sure China will be keen NOT to emulate that, unless they want a small strike aircraft with great sensors, which is what the F-35 is.

 

[Air Force Brat]

First of all, It's the B variant that really screwed the F-35, not the C variant.

Second of all, it's not unreasonable for China to take the Russian route of modifying air force fighters into carrier-borne fighters. It'll depend on how many carriers and how big of an air wing China requires. With only a couple of smaller carriers, it made no sense for the Russians to design an entirely new aircraft, so Mig-29K and Su-33 would do. With 11 supercarriers, it made a whole lot of sense for the Americans to design a whole new aircraft.

Of course, with the F-35, not only did they not do that, they went a step further and incorporated the B variant into the design. I'm sure China will be keen NOT to emulate that, unless they want a small strike aircraft with great sensors, which is what the F-35 is.

Actually the F-35B is a quantum leap over the AV-8B, the Marines have it lined out and operational, its performance is marginally decreased over the A or C, they love their new airplane. and finally, China couldn't build a B version as they lack the critical engine and lift fan tech, and the FCS is NO doubt a nightmare, so while its very likely somewhat techy to maintain, the Marines have a lot of experience maintaining the Harrier, which is very maintenance intensive, and to quote the Brit, takes an Octopus to fly! the B is a very nice surprise even given the main bulkhead cracking issues.

 

[dingyibvs]

Actually the F-35B is a quantum leap over the AV-8B, the Marines have it lined out and operational, its performance is marginally decreased over the A or C, they love their new airplane. and finally, China couldn't build a B version as they lack the critical engine and lift fan tech, and the FCS is NO doubt a nightmare, so while its very likely somewhat techy to maintain, the Marines have a lot of experience maintaining the Harrier, which is very maintenance intensive, and to quote the Brit, takes an Octopus to fly! the B is a very nice surprise even given the main bulkhead cracking issues.

I'm not saying that the B variant isn't a great plane, just that it prevented the A and C variants from becoming better planes.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Let's get back to J-20 please guys.

 

[Deino]

Let's get back to J-20 please guys.

Please tell this CAC and the PLAAF !

IMO they are responsible for these constant and repeated off-topic posts due to the lack of news.

 

[Air Force Brat]

Please tell this CAC and the PLAAF !

IMO they are responsible for these constant and repeated off-topic posts due to the lack of news.

Exactly, and if they don't get on the stick people want to speculate on Naval versions, vertical take-off versions?????? ad infinitum, and where in the heck is 2102, I mean really, I could die of old age before something new happens, it really all goes back up the ladder to President Xi???

and I had such high hopes for him????? such high hopes?????? Wow! I am disappointed!

 

[Equation]

Please tell this CAC and the PLAAF !

IMO they are responsible for these constant and repeated off-topic posts due to the lack of news.

Exactly, and if they don't get on the stick people want to speculate on Naval versions, vertical take-off versions?????? ad infinitum, and where in the heck is 2102, I mean really, I could die of old age before something new happens, it really all goes back up the ladder to President Xi???

and I had such high hopes for him????? such high hopes?????? Wow! I am disappointed!

It's not the CAC and the PLAAF job to keep the J-20 watchers and their fans entertained.

 

[Deino]

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[A.Man]

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