J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread V
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I think difficultbut how many external hard points possible he can get right now others stealth have 4/6 ? and some infos about A2G weapons ?
While I am rather certain the J-20 will likely feature 6-8 external hard points, I rather doubt there will be any dedicated A2G role, rather more likely that the J-20, like the F-22 may roll out some deep strike weaponry at some point?? The J-20 is a dedicated A2A bird, designed to counter the F-22, now the F-35 as well, it would be overkill, and take away from its ultimate effectiveness to get overly absorbed into A2G.
I am somewhat mystified that most SDFers are so enamored with the "multi-role" synonym, to me that word would more likely read "compromised" in its ability to perform its primary task, which in this case is dedicated A2A??
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Fantastic description by AFB ... ...
Multi--Roles = Compromised
your handle name reminds me about Nellis, Las Vegas as in Nellis AFB.
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Multi--Roles = Compromised
your handle name reminds me about Nellis, Las Vegas as in Nellis AFB. ... ...Back to J-20 topic.
I hope I'm not going too far sideways with technical stuff, otherwise I shall switch to the aerodynamics threat maybe. But after repeatedly reading that post of yours, Plawolf, I must say I likely misread your initial post on that topic and have a few issues with the points you bring forward.
Initially I thought you ment one set of blow-in doors (as in for low speed) on the front and a set off bleed doors aft of the turbine to perform a function similar to thrust attenuators (finally remembered the term).
Now I see you propose a series of "doors" as aerodynamic shock controllers.
Aerodynamicly, directing air through such shaped wholes at supersonic speed would seem counterproductive, as it will produce it's on shockwaves on those edges of the doors interfering with the airflow, in addition to producing additional turbulances.
If never seen something like that in practice or described anywhere. Is it more than a theoretical possibility?
From your description it also seems those "doors" are integral to managing the airflow to the engine throughout the speed range. And again, for a VLO design I see it as highly counterproductive to have partially opened doors, providig several edges & corners, during flight
Fantastic description by AFB ... ...
Multi--Roles = Compromised
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Thank You very much for the compliment, I was always very proud of my Dad, who had started his Air Force life as an Airman 2nd, initially being a radio operator, later being accepted into the Cadet Program class of 53F, he received a commission and flight training, with time in the T-6, T-28, C-45, B-25, and A-26.
He later had an assignment in the C-119, crappy C-123, and then into the rocket ride, the Lockheed C-130A, my Dad LOVED the C-130, had an opportunity to fly C-141s, (he was tempted), and offered left seat in the B-52,(no thanks), but the C-130 was always a pilots airplane, my Dad was an IP, and got in on the ground floor of simulators, ( I crashed a C-130 simulator at Sewart AFB when I was 9), no visual display, simply an IFR trainer with paint on the inside of the windows. I flew one of his student's C-195 tail-dragger on Christmas Day the same year, I loved and still do love that airplane.
My Dad bought a farm, and farming was always a part of our lives, we later had a C-172 on a grass strip a mile or so from our house, and I learned to fly and got my Private Pilots license in that airplane.
I choose to become the Air Force Brat on this forum with some humility, some knowledge and history, but primarily to honor my DAD, without whom there would be no Air Force Brat. My Dad wanted to be an engineer, but was fortunate to become a USAF officer, something the made him larger than life, and a being a pilot, he was always my hero? I love everything that flies, love the beauty of it, and the aesthetics of a craft that must claw and carve its way into the atmosphere, and yes I have made it a priority to study aerodynamics, both for my own survival, and as a very pleasant pastime.
I have found a surprising home here on SDF, realized I have always admired the Chinese people, and other Asian friends, and found them to be extremely honest and loyal to a fault, and I work very hard to exemplify these two traits myself, and count it a high honor to have become Air Force Brat here among the extraordinary gentlemen of the SDF. I have several mentors here, who have taken me under their wing, and without whom I would be a much poorer man, I do love you guys, and count it a high honor to hold the friendship of many men who are my intellectual superiors, and who continue to lead the SDF, and am proud to be the SDF "wingman" to all who need a "wingman".
Now back on topic: as Deino has pleaded, please fly 2101, and lets get those tickets to Chengdu for Deino, and I will go along to carry his bags, and carry his writing tablet?
If it has really reached LRIP stage, then it is not implausible for a small number of initial airframes to have been produced, the interesting thing to watch will be how many LRIP airframes they've actually built before moving to full scale production (which may take a year or two for LRIP airframes to be initially trialed and tested by the Air Force and to have any subsequent modifications integrated in full scale production airframes).
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