J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread IV (Closed to posting)

[Skywatcher]

I haven't seen this being posted here (explaining that the PL-10 can be launched from J-20, shooting backward: View attachment 8529

I think that's taking PLAAF-PLANAF interservice rivalry a little too far.

 

[Hyperwarp]

I haven't seen this being posted here (explaining that the PL-10 can be launched from J-20, shooting backward:
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Sorry but its a PS of this (APA -

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[chuck731]

I haven't seen this being posted here (explaining that the PL-10 can be launched from J-20, shooting backward: View attachment 8529

That's very good in theory. In practice, how much of the missile's total energy is it wasting by turning completely around in the air and braking from maybe Mach 2 going forwards until it hits mach 2 going backwards?

 

[Equation]

That's very good in theory. In practice, how much of the missile's total energy is it wasting by turning completely around in the air and braking from maybe Mach 2 going forwards until it hits mach 2 going backwards?

I think that all depends on how close the bogey is (behind) to the target aircraft. If it's real close than than it wouldn't matter how much energy is lost on the initial launching and turning of the missile, because it would keep the enemy bogey busy and turn his attention to the on coming threat instead of his target, therefore allowing the targeted object to escape and/or maneuver to a more advantageous position. Now, if it's far away, than it probably will be less effective of course, but would still does it's job as either a disruption or a kill.

 

[Equation]

Technically not vaporware since there are three-to-four prototypes ready, but still a long way away from IOC. The AESA is also not GaN according to reports; for a stealth fighter in development the lack of GaN AESA is a huge demerit; the F-35 will likely use GaN AESA, giving it increased power output without the need for additional cooling.

We've heard almost nothing about the WS-15; when the WS-15 is ready, I'll believe it when I see it. As I've said before, many times, on these forums and others we always hear optimistic reports about Chinese engine development, but the WS-10 was never ready in time for the J-10, and if you just follow the Chinese track record something is likely to go wrong with the WS-15. If it proves to be a surprise and turns up on time, on schedule, and with the originally specified specs, I'll be delighted.

Never the less, at least the Chinese has a great program going on and will continue to develop for many years to come. I don't see any other Asian countries are even trying this on their own with the same level of China, Russia and the US.

 

[Jeff Head]

I haven't seen this being posted here (explaining that the PL-10 can be launched from J-20, shooting backward: View attachment 8529

PLayer99, uh...do you really really think that is an official depiction of any sort, showing a Chinese J-20 attacking a Chinese J-15?

Really? I don't think so.

No, as already stated by Hyperwarp, that is just someone that took a depiction of the AIM-132 ASRAAM being used by a U.S. bomber for self defense and PS'ing a J-20 in it to replace the US Bomber.

 

[Blitzo]

That's a drawing someone doctored from ausairpower.

That said, the same technology on PL-10 would allow such a "reverse firing" to happen

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

Yeah.. Unless your planing for a civil war or one hell of a oops my bad moment... firing on your own bird not a good idea.

 

[blacklist]

with 360 degree radar and guidance and ultra manouverable missile... maybe. but wouldnt it be more effective if the missile already facing backward ? surely there would be some aerodinamic changes to the missile shape and structure to make the missile stable during initial backward flying or maybe shoot them out of a container.

That's a drawing someone doctored from ausairpower.

That said, the same technology on PL-10 would allow such a "reverse firing" to happen

 

[TerraN_EmpirE]

with 360 degree radar and guidance and ultra manouverable missile... maybe. but wouldnt it be more effective if the missile already facing backward ? surely there would be some aerodinamic changes to the missile shape and structure to make the missile stable during initial backward flying or maybe shoot them out of a container.

Been thought of, but given the limited number of weapons carried by most fighters its better to just mount them forward. in a container however is a growing option as Aircraft move more to stealth profiles use of encapsulated external arms is logical , well internal carry is a need as well.