J-15 carrier fighter thread

[Deino]

Is there any news about Pakistan getting J-15?

Why should they and even if there some hype oven this ag the PDF, so for no-one was able to give a reasonable explanation for this rumour?

Pakistan gas no carrier and if China would break the non-export obligations, the J-16 would make much more sense.

Therefore IMO this is pure nonsense ... even more since the PLAN is not building only 24 gor its own use and then restart production for Pakistan.

 

[asif iqbal]

Deino he is teasing you

as we all know Pakistan CAN get anything it wants from China

as a matter of fact China has no guts to say no

if Pakistan requests China obeys

this also includes top tier fighters like J20 and Y20

 

[jimmyjames30x30]

Why should they and even if there some hype oven this ag the PDF, so for no-one was able to give a reasonable explanation for this rumour?

Pakistan gas no carrier and if China would break the non-export obligations, the J-16 would make much more sense.

Therefore IMO this is pure nonsense ... even more since the PLAN is not building only 24 gor its own use and then restart production for Pakistan.

Jokes aside, I think the biggest problems are:
1. Does Pakistan really have a need for J-15 and the Liaoning (or the Shandong).
2. Even If Pakistan has a need for these, can it economically afford to operate and maintain an AC like the Liaoning and/or the Shandong.
3. Even if Pakistan have a need and can afford to get the Liaoning and/or Shandong, is it really money and resources well spent? Couldn't Pakistan spend the money elsewhere to fulfill its need and get bang for the buck.

 

[siegecrossbow]

This is the first time J-15 performed night time companion refueling.

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[asif iqbal]

Great to see

if China really wants to master the art of carriers it has to master the art of the night operations

night landing
night take off
night refuelling
night re-arming
night EW silence
night attack

the night always belongs to the experts

 

[Hendrik_2000]

if China really wants to master the art of carriers it has to master the art of the night operations

night landing
night take off
night refuelling
night re-arming
night EW silence
night attack
all of them are checked

all of them checked
A major breakthrough!

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Navy F-15 aircraft completed an aerial refueling training for the

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time at night. This means the all-weather aircraft forces equipped on China's aircraft carrier step forward in capacity when conducting long-range missions.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1287761661567406080

J15 night landing and night take off last year

J15 launching missile

 

[Tsavo Lion]

Their J-20s can shoot down USN/AF tankers F-15/18/22s need to keep CVNs out of range, while J-11/15/16s can now operate longer/further away than before.
Local superiority is achieved!

 

[ougoah]

Their J-20s can shoot down USN/AF tankers F-15/18/22s need to keep CVNs out of range, while J-11/15/16s can now operate longer/further away than before.
Local superiority is achieved!

PLAN carriers require a stealth fighter to offset the air superiority pretty much guaranteed by F-35s. HHQ-9 probably aren't going to be able to do that much and the USN sub and F-35 fleet are going to give the PLAN some serious challenges unless Chinese AShBM and the new hypersonic weapons can keep those nasty carriers at a distance. At least it'll just need to deal with Virginia classes without being harassed by F-35s. This way ASW planes can do their work better as well.

PLAN isn't there yet and the only thing really keeping the USN at bay are the two or three types of anti-ship ballistic missiles and the newer hypersonic missiles. H-20, JH-xx, and navalised J-35 can't come soon enough. The USN is quickly working on ways to defeat China's defenses. Local superiority is pretty precarious until new carriers arrive with J-35 and built in numbers with Type 055 spamming the waters in the SCS. PLAN subs desperately need the modern Type 095. H-20 and JH-xx replacing H-6 for cruise and AshM will also help. When all's lost, PLAN probably has some sort of Russian Poseidon like contingency plan with high yield nukes.

 

[Deino]

Can we please come back to the topic ?

 

[Tetrach]

speaking of air refueling, do we know how many UPAZ-1 are in service in the PLAN. I've always had the impression that they are quite rare, as we rarely see them equipped and when it's the case, well it's mostly in training...