J-15 carrier fighter thread

[Bhurki]

Commentary by @horobeyo.

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001と002の発進方式は本当にJ-15の性能に大きく影響か？001と002の甲板高度は水線から約16ｍ、スキージャンプの高点は約22ｍ、同型艦クズネツォフにおいてソ連海軍がSu-33に対し最低安全高度は20ｍ。伝説のソ連飛行士プガチョフが実証した、向かい風25㌩で、105ｍ発着点の離陸重量約30.5㌧が安全範囲内
Translated from Japanese by Google
Do the starting systems 001 and 002 really affect the performance of the J-15? The deck height of 001 and 002 is about 16m from the waterline, the high point of the ski jump is about 22m, and the Soviet Navy has a minimum safety altitude of 20m for Su-33 in Kuznetsov of the same type. Demonstrated by legendary Soviet aviator Pugachov, takeoff weight of 30.5㌧ at 105m departure and landing point within a safe range with headwind of 25㌩

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艦首105ｍ発着点32㌧以上で離陸したこともあったが、スキージャンプを飛んだ後何と無く上昇したが底点が20ｍ高度以下に落ちた。つまり向かい風25㌩の時、艦首105ｍの発着点は最大離陸重量が30.5㌧が使用可能。J-15の搭載方案として、対空8MRAAM+4SRAAM、燃料満タンで離陸重量30.5㌧、航続距離3000㎞。
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He had taken off at a bow of 105m or more at a landing point of 32m or more, but climbed up after flying a ski jump, but the bottom point fell below 20m altitude. In other words, when the head wind is 25㌩, the maximum take-off weight of 30.5㌧ can be used at the point of departure and landing at the bow of 105m. The J-15 will be equipped with an anti-aircraft 8MRAAM + 4SRAAM, full fuel and takeoff weight of 30.5 kg, with a cruising range of 3000 km.

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続）作戦行動半径1280㎞である。対地の場合、同じ離陸重量、105ｍ発進、2MRAAM+4SRAAM+3YJ-91対レーダー/KD-88対地/YJ-83K対艦搭載方案でも航続距離3000㎞、作戦行動半径1250/1280変わらない。着陸滑走路を一部横断する後部の195ｍの発着点を利用すると、向かい風0㌩で、最大離陸重量が35㌧に上がるが
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(Continued) Operational radius is 1280㎞. In the case of ground, the same take-off weight, 105m launch, 2MRAAM + 4SRAAM + 3YJ-91 anti-radar / KD-88 anti-ground / YJ-83K anti-ship mounting plan, the cruising distance is 3000km, and the operation radius is 1250/1280. Using the 195m landing point at the rear, which partially crosses the landing runway, the maximum takeoff weight increases to 35kg with a headwind of 0㌩.

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This assumes very thin/null safety margins.
I doubt the real number will anywhere close to this.

 

[Intrepid]

This assumes very thin/null safety margins.
I doubt the real number will anywhere close to this.

For normal operation take 1,3 times more speed or (if not possible due to maximum value over the ramp) 0,85 times less weight. Test pilots evalue the limit (that is their job and they are qualified to do this), line pilots fly safe.


[30 * 0,85 = 25,5]

 

[by78]

High-resolution scans of carrier operations.

 

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[Tam]

This assumes very thin/null safety margins.
I doubt the real number will anywhere close to this.

You mean the most common or routine number. Not the limits. I presume these are the limits. This is not something they will go routinely or often. But once in a while, as part of their training or being in the military, they should and will go past playing safe and past the routine load out to test and reach the limits. This is especially if the ship and the planes are doing testing. You cannot avoid the need to see how far you can go and train for it should the situation arise that you will need it. I presume the spotted J-15 022's layout of having two KD88, two YJ-91 and two PL-8 is one of those tests. That layout doesn't make tactical sense, unless they are deliberately loading the plane to see how far they can go, the KD88s might be there to mimic the weight of EW pods.

 

[Air Force Brat]

Touch and go?

yes

 

[Air Force Brat]

or J15 is a failed project and PLAN is not planning having any more of these white elephants ?

Nah! the J-15 is an amazing bird, its just that with only two carriers, once CV-17 launches, CV-16 will likely go in for an extensive retro-fit, sharing her air wing during that period.... in fact the next J-15 will likely be CATOBAR birds, capable of launching of CV-16 and CV-17 as well, but we will wait and see......

In fact as the CATOBAR carriers come on line, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see the ramp boats typically operate a dozen J-15's apiece...

 

[Tetrach]

Wouldn't call the J-15 an "amazing bird". Sub-part in many ways compared to foreign planes, and that's only when it does a succesfull take off. But that's really not the subject !

 

[Gatekeeper]

Wouldn't call the J-15 an "amazing bird". Sub-part in many ways compared to foreign planes, and that's only when it does a succesfull take off. But that's really not the subject !

Really??!