Hyperwarp
Captain
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J-15 carrier fighter thread
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4x ASCMs on a J-15 fitted for a strike role should be neither unusual nor difficult to achieve during wartime, with either a ski jump or with a cat. In fact I would think that 4 ASCMs should be considered the default loadout during actual combat for maximum efficiency. 4x YJ-83s, 2x PL-12s, 2x PL-8s, and 1 650L drop tank are easily achievable for a J-15 off either CV-16 or CV-17. Add in ~50kg per pylon and ~100kg for the empty drop tank weight and that comes to just over 5 tons of ordinance and fuel, hardly anywhere near the max loadout of a J-15.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
J15 load is not the question if J15 can't lift then which aircraft can ?
Question is this, can CV-16 do sustained around the clock day / night flight operations for continued presence over sea territory away from home ?
Answer is we don't know, better answer is they are getting there and working on it
Carry a load of a ski jump is no biggie in naval aviation
Doing carrier operations is
Essentially you have a moving 3D airspace with a moving airport this is a VERY complicated game
China needs to get aggressive with carrier oops excercise excercise excercise
Then when real missiles start flying it's second nature
It's like a atheletes stamina the minute he stops training his stamina goes doesn't matter how good he was
Question is this, can CV-16 do sustained around the clock day / night flight operations for continued presence over sea territory away from home ?
Answer is we don't know, better answer is they are getting there and working on it
Carry a load of a ski jump is no biggie in naval aviation
Doing carrier operations is
Essentially you have a moving 3D airspace with a moving airport this is a VERY complicated game
China needs to get aggressive with carrier oops excercise excercise excercise
Then when real missiles start flying it's second nature
It's like a atheletes stamina the minute he stops training his stamina goes doesn't matter how good he was
The J-15's load actually is still the question, since this clearly hasn't been answered to some people's satisfaction yet; let's just say there are still people behind the curve on this issue. Whether a J-15 can/should carry a full loadout during wartime including 4 ASCMs and whether a J-15 can lift a full load with ski ramps are questions that should be well and settled by now (in the affirmative), but they clearly aren't.
Tabs:
Warload (weapons/weight), Fuel, Total Load (WL+F), Take-off Weight, Combat Range, Take-off Position.
Rows:
2xR-27 MRSAM + 2xR-73 SRSAM
8xR-27 MRSAM + 4xR-73 SRSAM
28xFAB-250 free-fall bombs
26xFAB-250 + 4xR-73
2xM55 Onyx ASM + 6xR-73
MTOW - 32000 kg
Max Fuel - 9500 kg
Standard Fuel - 5350 kg
Max Combat Range - 1500 km
IMO the issue with sustained operations for China carrier is the number of J-15's carried. The J-15 is a large plane for carrier of its size and the number of planes will be a limiting factor in extended, sustained operations.
Blackstone
Brigadier
Is that really so? I don't see any likely scenario where China and the US make war on each other, so the J-15s wouldn't have to face more capable USN aircraft in extended naval battles.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
Which genius put three J-15 554's into one image? LOL
The job remains difficult...