J-11 to J-19 aircraft INSIDER INFORMATION (from CJDBY)

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Centrist

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^ I think a good part of SACs rumored projects based on the flanker won't materialize but the others seem feasible.
I mean they are bound to be working on something past the J-11B/J-15, JF-17 and J-20 and I feel that SAC and CAC have the experience now to work on multiple projects... even if most are only developments on existing aircraft.

We'll see with time I suppose. Hopefully some more detailed "rumors" will come to light this year

Well, we know the J-15 is in the works. F-18C equiv
The J-16 seems quite likely. F-15E equiv
The J-17 and J-19 are less certain. There are rumors of a Silent Flanker or Su-35 equiv, which may make sense for export.

But I tend to think that the Silent Flanker will be navalized at some point. The J-15 isn't up to F/A-18 level, so the Silent Flanker could simply be modified for China's future carriers to give china a modern carrier fighter.

I don't know about the J-18. Seems crazy to have a heavy, medium, AND a light stealth fighter. So one of these project will not fly.
 

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Well, we know the J-15 is in the works. F-18C equiv
The J-16 seems quite likely. F-15E equiv
The J-17 and J-19 are less certain. There are rumors of a Silent Flanker or Su-35 equiv, which may make sense for export.

But I tend to think that the Silent Flanker will be navalized at some point. The J-15 isn't up to F/A-18 level, so the Silent Flanker could simply be modified for China's future carriers to give china a modern carrier fighter.

I don't know about the J-18. Seems crazy to have a heavy, medium, AND a light stealth fighter. So one of these project will not fly.

I think the J-15 is comparable to the F-18E/F more than the F-18C/D, in weight class at least.
The J-17, or J-19 or silent flanker or whatever is possible, but I wonder if SAC and the PLAAF will care about exceeding the Su-27 licenses they bought from the Russians, which was their justification for building J-11Bs...

I'm also not sure what the PLANAFs carrier fighter plans are... They could try navalising the J-20, or go for a completely seperate fighter in the form of a silent flanker or the supposed J-18 medium weight 4th gen...

The so called J-18 will be in the same class as 611's "J-2X" and the F-35 (which are all in the "medium" weight class) so it might be that the PLAAF and PLANAF will go for different medium weight 4th gens or SAC and CAC's proposals will go through a competition or something... But I don't want to speculate too far, considering half of these projects could end up not actually existing.
 

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New Shipborne Navy J-15 "flying Shark" Jet Fighter

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"New shipborne navy jet fighter makes waves among analysts
By Xu Tianran
Source: Global Times | [02:36 April 25, 2011]

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Unofficially dubbed the J-15, the new People's Liberation Army navy's "flying shark" features enlarged folding wings, twin nose wheels and an arresting hook for use on China's first aircraft carrier. (Photo: Courtesy of netizen Zhang Xinliang)

Photos of a domestic-made shipborne J-15 heavy fighter were released on Sunday afternoon on Internet defense forums, prompting many military observers to coo about China's aircraft carrier capacity.

"Heavy shipborne fighters will boost the aircraft carrier fleet's air defense capability and enhance the fleet's strike ability," said Lan Yun, editor of the Modern Ships, a Beijing-based magazine following the latest developments in warships and defense equipment.

"They can carry many air-to-air missiles or air-to-surface missiles and other kinds of airborne munitions," Lan told the Global Times. "And they have the benefit of long combat radius."

The fighters are to be stationed onboard the Chinese Varyag aircraft carrier, which is under renovation in Dalian, according to defense media. The giant ship has had radars and electronic warfare equipment installed, the Canada-based Kanwa Daily News reported.

Sunday's photos of the fighter were taken outside the airfield of the No. 112 Factory of Shenyang Aircraft Industry Corporation, a company of the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), and were uploaded onto the cjdby.net and ****.cn military forums after 1:30 pm on Sunday.

Videos and smaller photos showing the fighter flying over Shenyang had been circulating on the Internet since June. This time the fighter was seen with a standard naval paint scheme, according to photos released on Sunday.

The fighter has distinctive features that enable it to operate on an aircraft carrier, such as folding wings and strengthened landing gear, according to the Chinese Military Aviation (CMA).

Missile launch rails and wide-angle holographic Head Up Display (HUD) clearly indicated that the fighter is equipped with domestic sensors, avionics and weapon systems, the website reported, just like later models of the Shenyang J-11 fighter. The fighter dubbed J-15 is based on a Russian Su-33 in terms of structural configuration, it also said.

The Russian Ria Novosti news quoted a Russian military analyst saying that China's J-15 is inferior to the Russian aircraft. Lan Yun refuted the claim.

"The sensors, avionics and missiles of the Su-33 are already obsolete," Lan said, adding that the Chinese airborne electronics could offer more advanced technologies.

The first prototype J-15 was believed to have made its maiden flight on August 31, 2009, a month before the 60th anniversary of the founding of the People's Republic of China, according to the Russian Ria Novosti news.

Lin Zuoming, AVIC general manager, published a poem in the China Aviation News newspaper one day later, celebrating the "breakthrough of scientific research."

Sunday's photos came at about the same time as foreign media quoted a Chinese blogger claiming a Vertical/Short Take-Off and Landing (V/STOL) shipborne fighter for the Varyag is conducting flight tests in the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, according to the US-based Defense News. The foreign reports were dismissed by an AVIC spokesman as pure speculation on April 18."

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New Images of China’s J-15 Carrier-Based Fighter

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The J-15 "Flying Shark" fighter has distinctive features that enable it to operate on an aircraft carrier, such as folding wings and strengthened landing gear, according to the Chinese Military Aviation (CMA).

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In this shot, you can see what may be the vertical stabilizer of a second J-15 in the background.

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J-15 "Flying Shark" fighter pictured at Shenyang SAC facility and airfield.

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The shot above shows the J-15’s twin-wheeled nose landing gear meant for carrier ops. The plane also has a larger wing area than land-based versions of the Su-27 and is reported to be equipped with Chinese avionics, sensors and weapons.

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Re: New Shipborne Navy J-15 "flying Shark" Jet Fighter

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I was hoping that they would have incorporated canted tails like the FA-18 by now since its the more optimal setup for carrier fighters as it can provide extra downforce if both rudders are turned inward during takeoff, resulting in a lower takeoff speed than the non-canted setup.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

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a slight angling of the tails would also reduce the overall RCS slightly. Hopefully that will come in the next releases of the Chinese Flanker series. I hope this version has better multi-role capabilities.
 

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J-15 Flying Shark with arresting hook

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The second J-15 prototype made its first flight yesterday (April 26) from No. 112 plant at Shenyang, China. It shows an arresting hook, necessary for landing on aircraft carriers.
 
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Martian

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J-15 Flying Shark analyzed

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Photographic analysis of the J-15 Flying Shark.

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J-15 Flying Shark features a "shortened tailcone to avoid tail-strike during high AoA (angle of attack) landing."

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"Some components onboard the J-15 Flying Shark are based on those onboard J-11B, such as the anti-ship enhanced PD radar, the glass cockpit as well as the improved WS-10 turbofan engine."

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"Some components onboard the J-15 Flying Shark are based on those onboard J-11B, such as the anti-ship enhanced PD radar, the glass cockpit as well as the improved WS-10 turbofan engine."

But these are still AL-31F !
 

AssassinsMace

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So is it something as easy as adding a towbar or does it say something that the J-15 doesn't have one. You'd figure if a catapult carrier is in the future, they would have towbars in general. Or is there another fighter in the works for carrier operations? There is the rumor SAC is still working on a stealth fighter.
 
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