J-10 Thread IV

A.Man

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What’s there to study? Only thing PL-15 hit were decoys.

In other news, new image of export bird in yellow primer.

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Cheng Fei or Gui Fei, do you have an idea?
 

Phead128

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Iranian news media (Khorasan news per
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My two cents:

I would take this with a grain of salt until more information is available, preferably from reliable Chinese sources. These Iranian interest in J-10 as been reported for the past decade leading to nothing, although the recent SCO defense minister visit in Qingdao and Israel/US war does heightened the urgency for a deal.

On face value, multiple converging events makes this a natural possibility, from the end of UNSC weapons/arms sanctions on Iran in 2020, and inability of Russia to deliver Su-35 as ordered, demonstrated Israeli/US air superiority over Iran, as well as J-10CE's combat-tested results. Even if Su-35 does get fulfilled, J-10CE is a natural numerical filler for Iran's obsolete airforce, and arguably superior to Su-35 in avionics/sensors/missile... Even the basic presence of a 4.5 gen will complicate Israeli air operations. Now from China's perspective, it's really about payment (China does not want oil-jet barter, but cash preferably), and perhaps an more enduring pause on hostilities.
 

manqiangrexue

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Iranian news media (Khorasan news per
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This has apparently been picked up by some Western media too (
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My two cents:

I would take this with a grain of salt until more information is available, preferably from reliable Chinese sources. These Iranian interest in J-10 as been reported for the past decade leading to nothing, although the recent SCO defense minister visit in Qingdao and Israel/US war does heightened the urgency for a deal.

On face value, multiple converging events makes this a natural possibility, from the end of UNSC weapons/arms sanctions on Iran in 2020, and inability of Russia to deliver Su-35 as ordered, demonstrated Israeli/US air superiority over Iran, as well as J-10CE's combat-tested results. Even if Su-35 does get fulfilled, J-10CE is a natural numerical filler for Iran's obsolete airforce, and arguably superior to Su-35 in avionics/sensors/missile... Even the basic presence of a 4.5 gen will complicate Israeli air operations. Now from China's perspective, it's really about payment (China does not want oil-jet barter, but cash preferably), and perhaps an more enduring pause on hostilities.
Iran's not ready for this at all. They have far too much foundational work including organizational integrity before it's appropriate to consider this step. J-10CE/J-35E to Iran:
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Deino

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Iranian news media (Khorasan news per
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) reports Iran is exploring a purchase of J-10CE, coincidental with Iranian Defense Minister Aziz Nasirzadeh visit to to Chinese city of Qingdao for SCO summit meeting, where he met Chinese Defense Minister Dong Jun of the PLA. (
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This has apparently been picked up by some Western media too (
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My two cents:

I would take this with a grain of salt until more information is available, preferably from reliable Chinese sources. These Iranian interest in J-10 as been reported for the past decade leading to nothing, although the recent SCO defense minister visit in Qingdao and Israel/US war does heightened the urgency for a deal.

On face value, multiple converging events makes this a natural possibility, from the end of UNSC weapons/arms sanctions on Iran in 2020, and inability of Russia to deliver Su-35 as ordered, demonstrated Israeli/US air superiority over Iran, as well as J-10CE's combat-tested results. Even if Su-35 does get fulfilled, J-10CE is a natural numerical filler for Iran's obsolete airforce, and arguably superior to Su-35 in avionics/sensors/missile... Even the basic presence of a 4.5 gen will complicate Israeli air operations. Now from China's perspective, it's really about payment (China does not want oil-jet barter, but cash preferably), and perhaps an more enduring pause on hostilities.

IMO I would take this not only with "a grain of salt" but with a huuuuuge pile of salt:

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IMO exactly the same amount of truth that Egypt already has them, Pakistan will get J-35A "soon" and other such nonsense spread by fanatic fan-boys or the stupid main-stream-media that only picks up random internet-rumours to spin fancy stories and facts are not only irrelevant but even more, often enough moreannoying!
 
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