J-10 Thread IV

[xyqq]

A J-10S and a J-10C were ready for a ground-attack exercise.



The construction number of the J-10S looks like J10S0330.



The following J-10C



has the construction number J10C0418.



It is the same plane that appeared in a previous picture.



This time, it fired rockets.

 

[xyqq]

Another J-10C carrying PL-10 training missiles just landed after a dogfight exercise.



Its construction number was not clear on the nose gear door,



but visible (probably J10C0339) on one of the air brakes.

 

[Broccoli]

How of then they do training with laser-guided or beidou-guided weapons?

 

[siegecrossbow]

How of then they do training with laser-guided or beidou-guided weapons?

I’ve only seen one video of the J-10 (A variant) firing LGB.

 

[Broccoli]

I’ve only seen one video of the J-10 (A variant) firing LGB.

Strange. Putting soft skinned fighterplane to do that kinda attacks is dangerous since it most definetly gives any MANPAD wielding opponent an good target.

 

[ougoah]

Strange. Putting soft skinned fighterplane to do that kinda attacks is dangerous since it most definetly gives any MANPAD wielding opponent an good target.

It's capable of air to ground and using unguided bombs and strafing targets. Doesn't mean that's how it would be used.

No modern fighter is designed with armour as any sort of major priority. While a fighter can be used for short range air to ground attacks, if it is used in such a way that exposes them to competent anti-air, then there is a problem with planning and command rather than the actual aircraft and its capabilities. PLAAF only shows on video rocket, gun, and unguided bomb drops and almost never shows any smart munitions. These pilots also train on rockets and unguided ordinance because smart ones run out pretty quickly in any high intensity war... even for major stockpilers like China etc.

I think it would be more vulnerable to AA gunfire than it would manpads since manpands are almost always heat seeking and much easier to either spoof or evade for a fighter.

 

[crash8pilot]

Strange. Putting soft skinned fighterplane to do that kinda attacks is dangerous since it most definetly gives any MANPAD wielding opponent an good target.

MANPADS are extremely effective against slow moving aircraft - rotary wing helicopters and cargo/civilian planes in particular. However there hasn't been any reliable instances of fast moving fighter jets being struck down by a MANPAD.

The range of a typical MANPAD is also limited to ~20,000 feet. Fighters like the J-10 can safely drop laser guided bomb at medium altitude where they are relatively safe from AAA and MANPADS.... but not so much SAM missiles. Operating at medium altitude would also give ample opportunity to identify launch of a MANPAD or SAM missile, dispense chaff and flare countermeasures, as well as ample block of altitude to defeat missiles and/or egress from the launch area.

Fact of the matter is the J-10, like the F-16CJ, as a light weight fighter is an ideal platform to serve the Wild Weasel SEAD/DEAD mission set... in fact I'm pretty sure they're heavily featured in the annual Golden Dart air-to-surface training exercise/competition where SEAD/DEAD is seemingly the feature event.... and LGBs alongside anti-radiation missiles are the go-to weapons for SEAD/DEAD.

J-10B with LS-500 LGBs + targeting pod:

 

[Broccoli]

MANPADS are extremely effective against slow moving aircraft - rotary wing helicopters and cargo/civilian planes in particular. However there hasn't been any reliable instances of fast moving fighter jets being struck down by a MANPAD.

The range of a typical MANPAD is also limited to ~20,000 feet. Fighters like the J-10 can safely drop laser guided bomb at medium altitude where they are relatively safe from AAA and MANPADS.... but not so much SAM missiles. Operating at medium altitude would also give ample opportunity to identify launch of a MANPAD or SAM missile, dispense chaff and flare countermeasures, as well as ample block of altitude to defeat missiles and/or egress from the launch area.

Fact of the matter is the J-10, like the F-16CJ, as a light weight fighter is an ideal platform to serve the Wild Weasel SEAD/DEAD mission set... in fact I'm pretty sure they're heavily featured in the annual Golden Dart air-to-surface training exercise/competition where SEAD/DEAD is seemingly the feature event.... and LGBs alongside anti-radiation missiles are the go-to weapons for SEAD/DEAD.

J-10B with LS-500 LGBs + targeting pod:

Syrian rebels have downed fighters with manpads including one MiG-21 shot down with FN-6.

 

[crash8pilot]

Syrian rebels have downed fighters with manpads including one MiG-21 shot down with FN-6.

The MIG was downed by AAA and not by MANPAD

 

[Deino]

Here a J-10C 131. Brigade + JG-500B LGB