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Pretty sure that’s a mixed unit
J-10 Thread IV
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Hendrik_2000
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We have not always proof for China... but assumptions which can be logic real and Henri K had envisaged this possibilty about a year ago with 16B + 8 C after true or not ?
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Hendrik_2000
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The satellite images dated December 18, 2017 show about twenty new J-10 (C and S?) And one J-20 on the tarmac of factory 132 Chengdu (CAC).
asif iqbal
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Interesting what is the highest number J10C we have seen 2-57?
Adding in another 20 units takes us close to 80
News coming out of J10D is adding to the success of this programme
Over 300 x J10A/S built
56 x J10B
Adding in J10C takes us maybe even close to 450 units by end of 2018
China has probably home built more J10 than Flankers not adding in imports from Russia
Adding in another 20 units takes us close to 80
News coming out of J10D is adding to the success of this programme
Over 300 x J10A/S built
56 x J10B
Adding in J10C takes us maybe even close to 450 units by end of 2018
China has probably home built more J10 than Flankers not adding in imports from Russia
Amazing post; thanks a lot ... but why don't we see any image of a current batch 03 J-10C????
Hendrik_2000
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Training of Chinese J-10B pilots
From Henri K blog
From Henri K blog
Hi all,
I have a question regarding the J10's ventral fin design: Is it possible or known that the ventral fins of the J10 provide lift at high angles of attack beyond a certain angle such that the lift generated will work to pitch the aircraft back downwards to prevent stall. The picture below shows that the ventral fin has a curved wing like profile (vs being just a "flat plate") and also the angle is almost 45 degrees outwards. In the 2nd picture below other planes with ventral fins seem to have them dead vertical downwards except the F16 which is only slightly pointing outwards. Dead vertical means no matter at which angle of attack, the ventral fins mostly just slice through the air without generating lift like a wing. At 45 degrees, a ventral fin would slice through air at low angles of attack and as the angle becomes greater the ventral fin could generate lift if it's profile is wing like and angled a certain way.
I read that canards should stall first before the main wings so that the plane will pitch down by itself. However should the control of canards go haywire then a "lift producing at extreme high angle of attack" ventral fins would help pitch the plan downwards as a form of "insurance"?
The ventral fins below mostly seem to be "flat plate" like.
I have a question regarding the J10's ventral fin design: Is it possible or known that the ventral fins of the J10 provide lift at high angles of attack beyond a certain angle such that the lift generated will work to pitch the aircraft back downwards to prevent stall. The picture below shows that the ventral fin has a curved wing like profile (vs being just a "flat plate") and also the angle is almost 45 degrees outwards. In the 2nd picture below other planes with ventral fins seem to have them dead vertical downwards except the F16 which is only slightly pointing outwards. Dead vertical means no matter at which angle of attack, the ventral fins mostly just slice through the air without generating lift like a wing. At 45 degrees, a ventral fin would slice through air at low angles of attack and as the angle becomes greater the ventral fin could generate lift if it's profile is wing like and angled a certain way.
I read that canards should stall first before the main wings so that the plane will pitch down by itself. However should the control of canards go haywire then a "lift producing at extreme high angle of attack" ventral fins would help pitch the plan downwards as a form of "insurance"?
The ventral fins below mostly seem to be "flat plate" like.