Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

Boltzmann said:

I understand your sentiment here but China had nearly unlimited strategic depth up the basins of the Yellow and Yangze rivers on top of being a massive country to begin with. Gaza is a tiny enclave surrounded by enemy territory with no room for retreat or resupply. Hamas can and probably will put up a fierce fight but they are on the wrong end of the attritionary equation here.

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Not really my point.

Boltzmann said:

I understand your sentiment here but China had nearly unlimited strategic depth up the basins of the Yellow and Yangze rivers on top of being a massive country to begin with. Gaza is a tiny enclave surrounded by enemy territory with no room for retreat or resupply. Hamas can and probably will put up a fierce fight but they are on the wrong end of the attritionary equation here.

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Does it matter? Even Native Americans made a last stand before getting slaughter or locking away at concentration camps. Either ways, Palestinians are hopeless. Israel no longer wants to entertain two state solution. Arab nations want to move on. The world has forgotten about them. They live in an open air prison with no hope or future. They are up against an enemy that is much more advance and sophisticated and more resourceful than they can ever be.

It probably is their last chance to be heard and a hope that other powers in middle east would force to intervene when too much blood is spilled and the world can no longer turn a blind eye. If not, at least they tried. Hamas might be a terrorist group in the eye of Israel and the West but they are the last element of Palestinians that still want to fight and don't want to give up and died as a coward.

KYli said:

Does it matter? Even Native Americans made a last stand before getting slaughter or locking away at concentration camps. Either ways, Palestinians are hopeless. Israel no longer wants to entertain two state solution. Arab nations want to move on. The world has forgotten about them. They live in an open air prison with no hope or future. They are up against an enemy that is much more advance and sophisticated and more resourceful than they can ever be.

It probably is their last chance to be heard and a hope that other powers in middle east would force to intervene when too much blood is spilled and the world can no longer turn a blind eye. If not, at least they tried. Hamas might be a terrorist group in the eye of Israel and the West but they are the last element of Palestinians that still want to fight and don't want to give up and died as a coward.

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I wouldn't write off the Palestinians just yet. If they were so easy to wipe out, the Israelis would have done it decades ago.

13th October 2023 – (Beijing) The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs confirmed on Friday (13th) that an Israeli embassy official was attacked and injured in Beijing. The diplomat was promptly taken to a hospital, and their condition is reported to be stable. The attack took place outside the premises of the Israeli embassy, and Israeli authorities are currently investigating the motive behind the incident. Israeli media outlets have reported that the diplomat was assaulted with a knife.

Earlier, the Palestinian Islamic extremist group Hamas had called for global demonstrations by Muslims on Friday to show support for Palestinians, referring to the day as “Day of Rage.”

The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs expressed concern over the incident and stated that they are closely monitoring the situation. The Israeli embassy in China is working in coordination with local authorities to ensure the safety and well-being of its staff.

Don't want to make sound it cynical, but twitter millennials found out how charred remains of a human look like?
There are thousands of such(and more brutal) views from Ukraine any war. Wars(and other technical disasters, starting from unlucky car crashes) involve fires, that's how it looks like.

Nice to live in a shielded war where censorship leaves only bearable footage, to save mom's warmongers' brittle hearts.
Don't want to see it - stop the bloodshed(or at least shield civilians from it whenever possible), not cry for rrrrevenge; revenge crime is still a crime. Charred remains look the same (and give the same pain) regardless of nation and passport.

Gloire_bb said:

Don't want to make sound it cynical, but twitter millennials found out how charred remains of a human look like?
There are thousands of such(and more brutal) views from Ukraine any war. Wars(and other technical disasters, starting from unlucky car crashes) involve fires, that's how it looks like.

Nice to live in a shielded war where censorship leaves only bearable footage, to save mom's warmongers' brittle hearts.
Don't want to see it - stop the bloodshed(or at least shield civilians from it whenever possible), not cry for rrrrevenge; revenge crime is still a crime. Charred remains look the same (and give the same pain) regardless of nation and passport.

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Showing of evidence apparently is going to be "selective", which is ironic considered the IDF has no problem releasing videos of their "success" in Gaza.

The Jordanian army fires tear gas at the crowds heading towards the border with occupied Palestine to protect the occupation borders.


The Jordanian King: We reject the transfer of the crisis in Gaza to neighboring countries and the exacerbation of the refugee issue.


NEW: Israel is now dropping leaflets over Gaza, telling civilians to leave as soon as possible

The only problem is, I kid you not, neither Israel nor Egypt is allowing anyone to leave.

So basically, it's gonna be another massacre by the Zionists, enabled by their Arab neighbours.


NEW: Iran's Foreign Minister Amir Abdollahian met with the Hezbollah Secretary General, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah

Stierlitz said:

The Jordanian army fires tear gas at the crowds heading towards the border with occupied Palestine to protect the occupation borders.

The Jordanian King: We reject the transfer of the crisis in Gaza to neighboring countries and the exacerbation of the refugee issue.

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IIRC, the Jordanian King is in a precarious position as the citizenry find him too lenient with Israel. Supposedly he is well protected by Western security forces but this Israeli-Hamas war could get him toppled if not assassinated.

This is big .. official statement from Indian government


"Our policy in this regard has been long-standing and consistent. India has always advocated the resumption of direct negotiations towards establishing a sovereign, independent and viable State of Palestine living within secure and recognized borders, side by side at peace with Israel": Ministry of External Affairs..

There is an alleged video of about 20 Israeli soldiers getting obliterated by a single Kornet missile (everyone was near each other)

Rumours that an Israeli warplane was shot down