Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and other Related Conflicts in the Middle East (read the rules in the first post)

Moonscape

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This part was the most surprising
Two U.S. defense officials confirmed that Houthi rebels seized the Galaxy Leader in the Red Sea on Sunday afternoon local time. The rebels descended on the cargo ship by rappelling from a helicopter, the officials said, confirming details first reported by NBC News. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the matter. That resembles other vessel seizures conducted by Iran, which long has armed the Houthis.

I did not think the Houthis had the ability to conduct a helicopter-based aerial assault on a moving target at sea.
 

RottenPanzer

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More attacks on IDF tanks. @1:43 a new incident involving a fighter placing a charge on a Merkava, by hand.
Btw, could a PG-7R Tandem Shaped charge for RPG-7 could penetrate a Merkava 4? At the rear is certain, but both side and front, i doubt it
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This part was the most surprising


I did not think the Houthis had the ability to conduct a helicopter-based aerial assault on a moving target at sea.
Not surprising, Houthi have been able to refurbished some of their hardware recently few months ago, even able to operate an F-5 recently

 

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The Israeli army has published footage of the destruction of a Hamas outpost in the northern Gaza Strip, where Badr-3 missiles were stored. The Badr-3 missile was developed in Iran, Hamas produces them itself at its bases in the Gaza Strip, presumably some of the missiles were previously received from Iran. The Badr-3 missile is equipped with a warhead weighing 250 kg and has an estimated range of 160 km. There are no exact data on the missiles' flight range. The Badr-3 missile explodes 20 meters above the target and upon explosion forms a cloud of 1,400 fragments, the missile’s damage radius is about 350 meters.

 

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I don't get it...why were the "rescuers" not able to be shot, too -- ran out of ammo??

And why no infantry screening for the tanks??? Simply missed because of great cover and concealment?
Gun shots were fired at the rescuers (I mean we can hear it) and I highly doubt that the Hamas soldier was missing his shots or something. I suspect some of the rescuers were hit and that is why they left their colleague however it's not like a soldier just immediatly falls on the ground if he is shot, not every shot goes to the heart or the spine or the head.
In this situation the Hamas guys were probably just aiming at the center of the target and not the head or something.
 

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Gun shots were fired at the rescuers (I mean we can hear it) and I highly doubt that the Hamas soldier was missing his shots or something. I suspect some of the rescuers were hit and that is why they left their colleague however it's not like a soldier just immediatly falls on the ground if he is shot, not every shot goes to the heart or the spine or the head.
In this situation the Hamas guys were probably just aiming at the center of the target and not the head or something.
There's also at least 2 cuts/edits in the video where time was skipped.

In the first time-skip if you pay attention to that sign/horizontal cloth thing (IDK how else to describe it) there are 2 holes present in it that are not there before the time skip. Right when the first IDF guy stopped moving.

It could also be that you couldn't see those holes earlier because the video was not zoomed in/bad quality, but the fact that there is a time skip tells me that either nothing happened and Hamas decided to save time or they did fire upon the rescuers but with no good results.

Just off the top of my head I can think of several reasons why they could've willingly choose not to engage other than no more ammo left or the return fire was suppressing them.

1) Good 'snipers' (no, Hamas for all its impressiveness does not have true snipers...those are hard to make but we can use this term for now for the sake of simplicity) sometimes know not to engage too often because their task is to waste the enemy's time/slow them down just enough for someone else on the other side of...wherever to accomplish something else.

2) Sounded like they might have been fumbling with their weapons a bit...possible weapon malfunction of some kind?

3) War is not something anyone gets real practice in until the real thing happens. They may have just not been proactive enough to pursue a good chance to eliminate more enemies when they had it.

On a different note. I've been watching some of the Israeli channel's stuff, and they show some very different things. It's easier if I show you guys.

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But in Israel's self-released footage there's quite a bit of infantry walking around, and by vehicles too. Meanwhile in literally all of the Hamas vehicle engagement videos there's no screening or dismounted infantry. This is quite different.

I'm having trouble discerning what's the truth.

Logically, it's probably a combination of both, but I can't help but notice that the Israeli footage shows what's essentially like a Hollywood movie-teaser trailer where it's just a 1, 2, maybe 3 seconds of footage and then moves on. None of that footage show visible enemies/Hamas. Meanwhile, Hamas is (obviously) more than happy to show the exact window that an Israeli fireteam was standing in front of when they put an RPG into it.

Combine this with the fact that Israel seems to be releasing names/pictures of dead soldiers only 2 at a time and it tells me that this operation is not going as smoothly as possible.

Oh and can we get a military dog handler or someone similar to answer why they're using military dogs in situations like Gaza? In U.S. miltary, at least, it's typically more for capturing somebody alive (HVT/HVI) than operations like Gaza where, let's just call a spade a spade here...kill everything that moves. So why bring dogs? I'm at a genuine loss here.

Also, I don't think the Israelis realize this, but when they are releasing those names and pictures...it actually kinda looks bad for them. Because a lot of those guys are officers or senior enlisted men, and some of them are company commanders in armored units.

The implication here that I'm seeing is that Hamas is somehow able to discern with some pretty impressive accuracy which tanks are the commanders' tanks or the platoon sergeants' and which ones are just lower level guys. Combine this with Hamas' footage which shows them not only engaging at extreme close intervals with armor, but also just straight up EA-Battlefield-Style putting exposives like I do with the engineer class in that game with the bags of C4 except in real onto Israeli tanks and that tells me that either Hamas has luck the likes of which they can bankrupt Vegas with just by playing Roulette or that Hamas is able to do some kind of reconnaisance or observation prior to engagement or that losses for Israel is MUCH worse than what they're letting on.

I suppose if Israel is not following basic military combat zone rules such as knowing that you shouldn't salute in a combat zone (watch who salutes who and eventually you'll figure out who's the senior most guy) then this could possibly explain why Hamas is able to target officers and senior NCOs like that.
 

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I did not think the Houthis had the ability to conduct a helicopter-based aerial assault on a moving target at sea.
At this point it should be pointed out that the Houthis are the defacto government of Yemen and not just a rag-tag band of rebels so it shouldn't be that surprising they have more access to resources specially now that the Saudis have eased on them after starting conversations with Iran

3) War is not something anyone gets real practice in until the real thing happens. They may have just not been proactive enough to pursue a good chance to eliminate more enemies when they had it.

Keep in mind that the IDF ground forces are mostly conscripted kids from the US and Europe and since 1982 they have been mostly lack luster in ground ops. It has nothing in common with the 1967 IDF which was formed by a lot of WW2 veterans.
 

OTCDebunker

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At this point it should be pointed out that the Houthis are the defacto government of Yemen and not just a rag-tag band of rebels so it shouldn't be that surprising they have more access to resources specially now that the Saudis have eased on them after starting conversations with Iran



Keep in mind that the IDF ground forces are mostly conscripted kids from the US and Europe and since 1982 they have been mostly lack luster in ground ops. It has nothing in common with the 1967 IDF which was formed by a lot of WW2 veterans.
That last part made me feel like an idiot because I just remembered that I knew several people from my high school and surrounding ones (I grew up in a heavily Jewish area...maybe even one of the most outside of Israel mathematically speaking) who actually joined the IDF.

And yes, Israel allows basically Jews from anywhere in the world to join the IDF...more-or-less.

Real funny thing is that one of them is a relatively popular, albeit still not 'famous' fulltime Onlyfans girl. LOL!

No seriously, I could share the profile, but I don't want to get banned from SDF.

Something else that tells me that things are not going nearly as well for Israel as they make it out to be is that even a Jai Bharat source (no like really) is reporting stuff like this:


One thing to note that caught my eye was that one of the fatalities is a special forces officer even!

Albeit it looks like he was a reservist too, but still...

Also, much of Israel's footage does not appear to be truly active combat footage. I've noticed that their infantry is consistently clumped together, they don't hustle/hurry much (although they also didn't seem too much of a hurry rescuing their fallen comrades), and overall again you don't see them acting and behaving as if they've made contact with the enemy or they suspect immediate and imminent contact with the enemy.
 
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sheogorath

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Real funny thing is that one of them is a relatively popular, albeit still not 'famous' fulltime Onlyfans girl. LOL!
It is known that part of the Israeli ops includes that kind of stuff. It's why "hot IDF girl selfies" are widely allowed to be circulated by the leadership.

It seems Hezbollah wiped out an IDF barrack in Birnit with a Burkan rocket

 
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