ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

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Yesterday at 10:01 PM
now just a few thoughts from my comfortable armchair:
I posted recently
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/is...o-oped-no-politics.t6913/page-476#post-425637
about fights in Al-Bab area between ISIL and Rebels/Turks; the importance is in taking accesses to Al-Bab, which is fortified:
and while "bulwark" like that shown in the recent picture of Al-Bab:
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would be a problem for Light Infantry (=Rebels), it wouldn't last long if Turks pulled the artillery and just corrected fire of for example (a picture from today, but from elsewhere in northern Syria)
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the most recent "edmap"
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now in Twitter I figured "M4" in Al-Bab area had been reached by Rebels/Turks around "Aji" and if true, it would mean the current line of contact looks something like this:
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Well, I did predict some time ago that the SAA would want to storm the Hanano Housing District at the North end of the terrorist controlled zone of East Aleppo and it seems I was spot on.
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LOL yeah Oct 14, 2016
At last, another quality map from Peto Lucern.
Looking at it shows that the obvious next target for the SAA should be the Hanano housing complex.
These look like modern high buildings and there protrusion into the heart of the City would give the SAA fire control over the entire remaining terrorist held areas in the North of the City.
Presumably this is understood by the Jihadis, which is why a number are now negotiating a surrender.
 

delft

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More support for Syria. An article from PressTV:
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Egypt deploys pilots to boost Syrian anti-terror fight: Paper
Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:41AM

Egypt has reportedly sent 18 helicopter pilots to Syria to support the war-torn Arab nation in its fight against terrorism, and mulls more deployments to the same end early next year.

On Thursday, Lebanese As-Safir paper cited “well-informed Arab sources” as reporting that Egypt had dispatched the pilots to an airbase in the western Syria city of Hama on November 12, adding that the contingent was joined by four senior Egyptian military figures upon arrival.

It added that two Egyptian major generals had also been operating at the Armed Forces Staff Headquarters in the Syrian capital Damascus since last month. They have been touring frontlines, including the “Southern Front” in the city of Quneitra.

The daily cited one source “close to the Syria file” as saying that a large deployment of Egyptian troops will arrive in Syria in late January 2017 to take part in military operations “not limited to air support at Hama airbase.”

Major General Ali Mamlouk, the head of Syria’s National Security Bureau, had paid an official one-day visit to the Egyptian capital, Cairo, in October and held talks with senior Egyptian intelligence officials.

The two sides reached an agreement on “coordinating political standpoints” and improving bilateral “cooperation in the combat against terrorism” during the talks, official Syrian Arab News Agency reported at the time.

A month earlier, Egyptian Foreign Minister Sameh Shoukry had announced that Cairo and Riyadh did not share common attitudes vis-à-vis the ongoing crisis in Syria. Shoukry had said that terrorist groups cannot remain in Syria if peace is to be achieved in the conflict-stricken Arab country.

While Saudi Arabia and its allies in the Persian Gulf region, particularly Qatar, are financially and militarily supporting the extremists fighting to unseat Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Egyptian officials have reiterated that the crisis in Syria can only be solved through political means.

On Tuesday, Egyptian President Abdul-Fattah al-Sisi said he supported the Syrian army in its war against terrorists.

“Our priority is to support national armies, for example in Libya to assert control over Libyan territories and deal with extremist elements. The same with Syria and Iraq,” he said.

Despite having received billions of dollars in aid from Saudi Arabia, Cairo has refused to align itself with Riyadh on issues concerning Syria and also stopped short of joining the kingdom’s March 2015-present war on Yemen, which has killed thousands.

Cairo’s decision to play a role on the battlefield against terrorists, including Daesh, in Syria comes at a time when Egypt is also battling the Takfiri outfit’s branch at home.

Valayat Sinai, previously known as Ansar Beit al-Maqdis, as the group is named, has been leading a deadly campaign of violence against both Egyptian security forces and civilians in Cairo and the restive Sinai Peninsula.

On Thursday, more than a dozen people, including security forces, were killed in Sinai in two separate terror attacks.

There have been no claim of responsibility for the attacks, but Egyptian officials usually blame the Daesh-linked militants for such acts of violence.
 
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From earlier in the week, not sure if these incidents were related.

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WORLD NEWS | Thu Nov 24, 2016 | 10:39am EST
Turkey to retaliate after suspected Syrian air strike kills soldiers

By Tulay Karadeniz and Ece Toksabay | ANKARA
Turkey said it would retaliate after three of its soldiers were killed in what the military said was a suspected Syrian air strike, the first such deaths at the hands of Syrian government forces since Ankara launched a cross-border incursion in August.

The attack occurred at around 3:30 am on Thursday during a Turkish-backed Syrian rebel operation in northern Syria, the Turkish military said in a statement.

It said 10 other soldiers were wounded in the air strike that it "assessed to have been carried out by Syrian regime forces". It gave no details on the exact location.

"It is clear that some people are not happy with this battle Turkey has been fighting against Daesh (Islamic State). This attack will surely have a retaliation," Prime Minister Binali Yildirim told reporters in the capital Ankara.

Seven more Turkish soldiers were wounded in a second attack in Syria later on Thursday and were evacuated to the Turkish border town of Kilis for medical treatment, the privately-owned Dogan news agency said. It was not clear who was responsible.

Direct confrontation between NATO-member Turkey and Syrian government forces, which are backed by allies including Russia, would mark a serious escalation in an already messy battlefield in northern Syria.

Turkey is part of the U.S.-led coalition against Islamic State, but Washington has said it is not providing support for the three-month-old Turkish offensive in Syria as it moves toward the Islamic State-held city of al-Bab.

There was no immediate comment from the Syrian military on Thursday's incidents. But in October it said the presence of Turkish troops on Syrian soil was a "flagrant breach of Syria's sovereignty" and warned it would bring down Turkish warplanes entering its air space.

Earlier on Thursday security and hospital sources in Turkey had blamed Islamic State fighters for the first attack and said it was in the al-Bab region. The wounded soldiers from that attack were transferred to hospitals in the Turkish border provinces of Kilis and Gaziantep, they said.

WARNING FROM ASSAD ALLIES

Turkey sent tanks, special forces and jets into Syria on Aug. 24 in support of largely Turkmen and Arab rebels in an offensive dubbed "Euphrates Shield" meant to push Islamic State and Kurdish militia fighters from its border.

President Tayyip Erdogan said last week that the Turkish-backed rebels were close to taking the city of al-Bab, the last urban stronghold of Islamic State in the northern Aleppo countryside.

Forces allied to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad warned Turkey last month against making any advance toward their positions to the north and east of Aleppo, saying any such move would be met "decisively and with force".

The Turkish-backed rebels have clashed with Syrian government forces before, including in late October, when a suspected Syrian government helicopter bombed their positions near Dabiq, a former Islamic State stronghold.

But the overnight clash was the first time the Turkish military has said its own soldiers were killed by Syrian forces since Euphrates Shield began.

The attack came on the first anniversary of Turkey shooting down a Russian warplane over Syria, which prompted a lengthy diplomatic rift between Moscow and Ankara which ended in August.

(Additional reporting by Ercan Gurses and Tom Perry in Beirut; Writing by Daren Butler and Humeyra Pamuk; Editing by Nick Tattersall and Janet Lawrence)
 

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From earlier in the week, not sure if these incidents were related.

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The Syrian air force denied it operated in the area ( where it I see that? ). It might have been as I also read somewhere that a mortar or artillery attack was interpreted as an air attack to influence Turkish policy.

I just read an interpretation at
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The Syrian air force denied it operated in the area ( where it I see that? ). ...
hahaha so Mr. Assad denied? but ...:
yesterday (during a phone call) Mr. Putin expressed condolences to Mr. Erdogan because of Turkish soldiers KIA in Syria
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and while this press release is "cunningly" worded (says like (not an exact quote) 'they mentioned recent attack which Turkish media related to the Syrian Army attack'), "Cassad"
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said Russia yesterday had expressed condolences due to Syrian Air Force attack ...
now go ahead, gimme a false flag :)
 

delft

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hahaha so Mr. Assad denied? but ...:
yesterday (during a phone call) Mr. Putin expressed condolences to Mr. Erdogan because of Turkish soldiers KIA in Syria
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and while this press release is "cunningly" worded (says like (not an exact quote) 'they mentioned recent attack which Turkish media related to the Syrian Army attack'), "Cassad"
(in
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said Russia yesterday had expressed condolences due to Syrian Air Force attack ...
now go ahead, gimme a false flag :)
Ambassador Bhadrakumar has a blog post about the military and political complexities of the situation:
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