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FORBIN

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DigoSSA said:
Russia deploys Su-35 fighters to Syria

Russia deploys reinforcements to to Syria. Up to four Su-35s are now believed to have joined the four Su-30SMs, already present at Hmeemeem/Bassel al-Assad IAP, Lattakia Governorate.

As the leader of a group of fighters Su-35S acts board “05” Red RF-95815, followed by “06” Red RF-95816, “04” and the red “03” red (presumably serial numbers 02517, 02518).

The Sukhoi Su-35 (NATO reporting name: Flanker-E) is a designation for two separate, heavily upgraded derivatives of the Su-27 ‘Flanker’ jet plane. They are single-seat, twin-engine,supermaneuverable multirole fighters, designed by Sukhoi and built by Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aircraft Production Association (KnAAPO).

The Su-35 is a 4++ generation aircraft employing technologies of the fifth generation. They make it superior to all other 4th generation fighters now under development worldwide. In 2009-2015, thanks to these technologies, the Su-35 will dominate the world market, outperforming other proposed multi-role fighters.

In addition to the armaments onboard the modern Su-30MK, it is planned to additionally arm the Su-35 with new types of air-to-air and air-to-surface guided missiles, including long-range types. The maximum ordnance load of the Su-35 is 8,000 kg. This is placed in 12 weapon stations.

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For some do not come to disturb in Russian affairs... :) very capable fighters.
With for the first time new jamming pods L-265M10 on the wingtips, as Su-34 same ?.
 
plawolf

plawolf

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FORBIN said:
For some do not come to disturb in Russian affairs... :) very capable fighters.
With for the first time new jamming pods L-265M10 on the wingtips, as Su-34 same ?.
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No doubt a response to Turkish fumblings.

The initial Su30 deployment was still ground attack oriented.

The Su35 is obviously multirole, but its emphasis is air to air. Turkish F16s will have a fight on their hands it they tried to pick a fight with one of these.

4 is obviously not going to be able to take on the entire Turkish Air Force, but no one sane really expects a clash on that scale.

In any small encounters, the Su35s should be more than a match for Turkish F16s even if outnumbered, and Turkey would probably have to send so many F16s to ensure a favourable outcome in such a fight as to make it impossible to paint it as anything other than a major attack and provide the rest of NATO and easy way to hang Turkey out to dry should they decide risking all out war with Russia isn't something they are interested in.
 
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taxiya

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Is there any Russian AWAC in Syria? I expect an AWAC in the air close to the border to monitor any movement of F-16s and radar signals of ground based air defense batteries when the bombers are doing their jobs, and these Su-35 should be in the air to provide covers.
 
solarz

solarz

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plawolf said:
No doubt a response to Turkish fumblings.

The initial Su30 deployment was still ground attack oriented.

The Su35 is obviously multirole, but its emphasis is air to air. Turkish F16s will have a fight on their hands it they tried to pick a fight with one of these.

4 is obviously not going to be able to take on the entire Turkish Air Force, but no one sane really expects a clash on that scale.

In any small encounters, the Su35s should be more than a match for Turkish F16s even if outnumbered, and Turkey would probably have to send so many F16s to ensure a favourable outcome in such a fight as to make it impossible to paint it as anything other than a major attack and provide the rest of NATO and easy way to hang Turkey out to dry should they decide risking all out war with Russia isn't something they are interested in.
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It's interesting to see that Russia is more than willing to show off their best military assets, while China is doing all it can to conceal their best hardware. Reminds me of the old line from Sun Tzu: appear strong when you are weak, and appear weak when you are strong.
 
FORBIN

FORBIN

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plawolf said:
No doubt a response to Turkish fumblings.

The initial Su30 deployment was still ground attack oriented.

The Su35 is obviously multirole, but its emphasis is air to air. Turkish F16s will have a fight on their hands it they tried to pick a fight with one of these.

4 is obviously not going to be able to take on the entire Turkish Air Force, but no one sane really expects a clash on that scale.

In any small encounters, the Su35s should be more than a match for Turkish F16s even if outnumbered, and Turkey would probably have to send so many F16s to ensure a favourable outcome in such a fight as to make it impossible to paint it as anything other than a major attack and provide the rest of NATO and easy way to hang Turkey out to dry should they decide risking all out war with Russia isn't something they are interested in.
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Su-30SM are used for A2A missions from the beginning, escort air strikes, only a time i have see with A2G weapons since september.
As Chinese Russians have in general more specialized aircrafts ofc the lasts are versatile despite Su-34 get a radar very good in A2G mode but in fact medium in A2A mode.
Russians use him for very accurate A2G attacks he get all Rusians PGM and have as the F-35 one internal designator which i think is better as pods on others aircrafts, mode modern electronic.

The Su35 is obviously multirole, but its emphasis is air to air
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Exact it is her main mision, employment, tactic matter...
Main difference with Su-30SM a little more agile, a more long range and mainly one of the best radar the very powerful PESA Irbis.
He is not in the same category as F-16 a medium fighter for size and it is a heavy the Su-35 is clearly more powerful armed with in general 8/10 AAM vs 6 max and i have say for the rest.

Trust me, allow me, China have do very good money with the Su-35 in more only 24...
 
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B.I.B.

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solarz said:
It's interesting to see that Russia is more than willing to show off their best military assets, while China is doing all it can to conceal their best hardware. Reminds me of the old line from Sun Tzu: appear strong when you are weak, and appear weak when you are strong.
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At current oil prices, Russia is expected to have used up her FX reserves within 12-18 months.
Therefore, I'm guessing that a sizable cash contribution on Chinas part would be greatly received by Russia.
 
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