I did reply, especially with regard to your Motorola and Cisco accusations against Huawei. Your assertion that I didn't is as hollow as your case against Huawei.
Is the US shooting itself in the foot by banning Huawei?
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I did reply, especially with regard to your Motorola and Cisco accusations against Huawei. Your assertion that I didn't is as hollow as your case against Huawei.
Working overtime for the CIA/Pentagon, Brumby?
African Union head calls China spying report 'lies'
BTW, we're all still waiting for the "evidence" of the Huawei "threat". Italy, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, Britain, etc are all still waiting. It would be real great if you could throw in some Iraqi WMD in there while you're at it.
Ohh, I almost forgot...
African Union head calls China spying report 'lies'
BTW, we're all still waiting for the "evidence" of the Huawei "threat". Italy, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, Britain, etc are all still waiting. It would be real great if you could throw in some Iraqi WMD in there while you're at it.
Ohh, I almost forgot...
One should accept that Trump is always telling quarter-truths. He hears something from some advisor or fox news (who has their own agenda) and twist it like a used car salesman. Whatever Huawei did do, he has to edit the story to suit his rhetoric to sell the point.
When you got big ego like his and his supporters, you gotta defend your lies to the bitter end. Hence I am pessimistic about a deal.
I suppose the only thing that trumps
further escalation is a recession which he cannot have if he wants a relection.
When you got big ego like his and his supporters, you gotta defend your lies to the bitter end. Hence I am pessimistic about a deal.
I suppose the only thing that trumps
further escalation is a recession which he cannot have if he wants a relection.
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So? Servers are automatons that can be ordered to make transfers from anywhere to anywhere else. Anyone can give such orders. For example, Microsoft Windows is famous for "phoning home". Also, that the transfers passed through Shanghai does not prove that the ultimate destination was Shanghai; the Internet is globally connected.
It's not wise to swallow every slander against China and Huawei; you could poison yourself. Worse, you could poison your country.
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plawolf
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Please stop wasting your time with closed minded parrots who are only interested in repeating what they read and see from the western MSM.
If it was China levelling nebulous accusations without a single shred of proof, the same western MSM endlessly repeating Washington’s talking points would feature it in the jokes section and endlessly mock it.
The west’s 5 eyes intelligence agencies have been going over Huawei tech and software with a fine tooth comb for years, and have found precisely zero evidence of any of the alleged spying.
At best this means all the hysterics being kicked up are just protectionist facades and/or trying to create bargaining chips to use against China in trade negotiations.
At worst, this would be a desperate attempt by the 5 eyes to maintain the status quo, because the western telecoms providers they are effectively championing are engaged in the precisely the kind of backdoor building activity that have allowed 5 eyes to operate so effectively. If the world switches to Huawei tech for next gen communications, their ability to insert backdoors and other security breaches at source will be compromised, along with their ability to effectively spy on the world.
If it was China levelling nebulous accusations without a single shred of proof, the same western MSM endlessly repeating Washington’s talking points would feature it in the jokes section and endlessly mock it.
The west’s 5 eyes intelligence agencies have been going over Huawei tech and software with a fine tooth comb for years, and have found precisely zero evidence of any of the alleged spying.
At best this means all the hysterics being kicked up are just protectionist facades and/or trying to create bargaining chips to use against China in trade negotiations.
At worst, this would be a desperate attempt by the 5 eyes to maintain the status quo, because the western telecoms providers they are effectively championing are engaged in the precisely the kind of backdoor building activity that have allowed 5 eyes to operate so effectively. If the world switches to Huawei tech for next gen communications, their ability to insert backdoors and other security breaches at source will be compromised, along with their ability to effectively spy on the world.
The game plan is simple. Enemy of Huawei will be the enemy of China.
UK corrected itself after China taking retaliations against Canada, New Zealand and Australia.
With US, China engaging in TaiChi, denying it the thing it wants;structural changes in its economy. China is buying time.
UK corrected itself after China taking retaliations against Canada, New Zealand and Australia.
With US, China engaging in TaiChi, denying it the thing it wants;structural changes in its economy. China is buying time.
Equation
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Aaand, that's about it. We started at old man who traveled nowhere bragging about imaginary freedoms in a country known for racism, police brutality, government surveillance, and starting wars, and now we're at religious oral diarrhea. That's full circle; I wouldn't know how to up the ante from here.
No good way to respond because you're off in Narnia talking about imaginary freedoms and imaginary friends. Let's chat again when (or if) you get back to real world frequency... or not, whatever.
Equation
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Well, if you asked people what shape the earth is, you'd get an echo chamber too so I wouldn't use that as evidence, certainly not for something being wrong.
As I said, different countries have different freedoms. To have someone attempting to disrupt society (for self-hate, confusion, insanity or some various treacherous reason) be swiftly removed is a freedom for everyone else. Obviously, to the person attempting to incite chaos, that's a lack of freedom. I stand with those who love their nation and wish to raise society rather than raze it so it's clear which type of freedom I prefer. So once again, the US and China have different freedoms; Chinese freedoms are more beneficial to warm-blooded law-abiding supporters of unity with nothing to hide, and US law is more beneficial to those of deviant nature who wish to test the limits of his capabilities in inciting unrest/disrupting the system. We appreciate the difference and it would be as comical as it is ironic for someone who has never experienced much less understood China to call people who have lived in both China and the US/Europe, "indoctrinated."
It is common sense and necessity that every company follow the directives of the law enforcement agencies of the country that it is under. Huawei must do it. So must US companies. If I'm a client of a bank in the US and I commit fraud, the bank must surrender my financial information to the FBI instead of protecting me as a customer. If I text violent plans to my accomplice and the police demand my records from my service provider, the US company must give it instead of protect me. I understand that there was a case where the FBI needed to crack the phone of the San Bernardino shooter and Apple refused to cooperate under the pretense that it was being ordered to create something rather than provide what it already had and it resulted in a long and expensive legal battle with the FBI finally paying nearly a $1 million for a third party to hack the iphone. This tells me that firstly, Apple would have been required to cooperate had the software already existed and secondly, the US legal system is incredibly cumbersome to both the FBI and the companies that the FBI demands cooperation from. For China, the requirements are similar, though the process would not be so unwieldy.
vesicles
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First of all, in my opinion, it is totally fine for the western nations to defend their positions in the world. Like any sports game, it is absolutely fine to attack opponent’s weaknesses and defend themselves. Finding mismatches and attack them with all you’ve got. Both sides can do that. The US has found a major weakness with China, which is Huawei, and attacks it. That’s a part of the game. Totally legit. It’s up to China to find their mismatches with the US and exploit them. If they can’t, they lose the battle and submit. Simple as that. It’s a competition.
Now, just don’t use the moral high ground arguments. Whatever the western nations are accusing China of doing, they have been doing it for much longer. Practically, the entire modern western society has been built on the blood and sweat of the slaves and the native people in their colonies. Just go to any museum in a western country and check out the wealth that they have accumulated from their colonies and throughout the centuries of colonization. I wouldn’t consider slavery and colonization a western standard. Yet the west has been doing these for centuries.
When needed, the west did not shy away from stealing Chinese technologies. A British gentleman, Robert Fortune, pretended to be a Chinese and stole the trade secrets of the Chinese tea industry. He has been considered as a national hero who “changed the course of history”.
I guess we have to blame the gullibility of the Chinese people who believed he was a Chinese, as well as the ingenuity of Mr. Fortune.
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I would agree except for the part that Huawei is China's weakness. Actually, Huawei is China's major strength and the US is doing its best to defend against it. If it didn't and Huawei were to enter the US market without prejudice, it would absolutely decimate the competition. The US is totally in a defensive position against Huawei's market prowess.
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