Is the US shooting itself in the foot by banning Huawei?

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Jono

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People say the western powers are a coalition of robbers.
Money is what glues them together,
Money is also what drives them apart.
Europe, if partnering with Huawei, smells a golden opportunity to drive ahead of and gains more interests than the US in terms of 5G and beyond.
Failing that, Europe will lag behind Asia, and this is something white people cannot stomach. And Europeans are showing themselves to be pragmatic, they are more willing to adapt to changes. But America has been the top dog for too long and the US elites are just not willing to go down without a solid fight.
I see a new Asia-Europe alliance emerging, unshackled by American meddling and interference.
In that light, the One Belt One Road project is a brilliant strategic move by Beijing.
 
People say the western powers are a coalition of robbers.
Money is what glues them together,
Money is also what drives them apart.
Europe, if partnering with Huawei, smells a golden opportunity to drive ahead of and gains more interests than the US in terms of 5G and beyond.
Failing that, Europe will lag behind Asia, and this is something white people cannot stomach. And Europeans are showing themselves to be pragmatic, they are more willing to adapt to changes. But America has been the top dog for too long and the US elites are just not willing to go down without a solid fight.
I see a new Asia-Europe alliance emerging, unshackled by American meddling and interference.
In that light, the One Belt One Road project is a brilliant strategic move by Beijing.
#312 Jono, Today at 7:36 AM
borders with racism:
what if I had posted for example the first sentence with "eastern" instead of "western",
or further down "yellow" instead of "white"
huh
 
now noticed the tweet
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If the past few years were about testing and development of 5G technology, this year is the time to quit lip service and show some real applications.

Chinese tech giant Huawei, on the one hand, is ready to launch its first 5G foldable phone and go head-to-head with Samsung, and on the other hand, is busy with its 5G deployment globally amid mixed attitudes and responses.

Clearly, the 5G race is heating up and entering a critical period.

Though Huawei is under severe pressure from both global competitors and governments, Thailand has just launched a Huawei 5G testbed in disregard of U.S. pressure on its allies to hang up on Huawei.

Other Asian countries also show their business as usual with Huawei.

Apart from Huawei’s 5G foldable phones, mobile phone manufacturers including Samsung, OnePlus and LG, have either confirmed or hinted at the launch of 5G foldable phones this year.

Fraser Cameron, director of the EU-Asia Centre in Brussels, pointed out that after a serious review of Huawei’s technology, the intelligence and security organization based in Britain has determined that Huawei is not a security threat.

“The British authority says that they have actually put Huawei technology through the processing plan to their intelligence headquarters, Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), and think there is no real security threat. So, if the Brits can do this, one would ask the question why can’t the Americans do this, or other people do this?”

Andy Mok, a non-resident fellow at Center for China and Globalization, stated that 5G was more than high Internet speed.

"Those '90 percent underwater' part of the 'iceberg' that people didn’t know about 5G would trigger the essential breakthroughs for the industry 4.0," he said.

"All of these applications that are for faster download speed to consumers is sexy, but I think what’s really important is the 90 percent underwater part that people don’t see.

"What 5G is enabling, is hundreds of billions of devices to talk to each other. And that would change every industry, whether we are talking about transportation in driverless cars, health care in telemedicine, urban management with smart cities."

Professor Benjamin Chiao, a network expert at Paris School of Business, who was based in Hong Kong, stated that the high speed of 5G would bring on huge surprises to consumers.

"A lot of things we probably don't even know yet, but most experts in the field said that the real breakthroughs would be what they called industry 4.0.

"5G will definitely shock users in terms of speed at selected sides because it is still far from being implemented outdoors with extremely high-speed everywhere."
 

Equation

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A couple of news updates from Europe, the current battlefront of the US vs. Huawei.

I must admit I am surprised that it happened this early. I thought the Europeans would go down with the ship one last time from the arm-twisting of their American captain. I thought they'd gun it out a little longer, stay with their hobbled shells of what they delude themselves to be "5G" connectivity until they see that before they can even catch up to today's Huawei 5G, the Chinese have already unleashed true 6G. I thought that's when they'd all throw in the towel and jump ship.
 

localizer

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It won't be long at this rate for China to determine future telecommunication standards like how Intel monopolized x86 and microsoft monopolized operating systems
 

Max Demian

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People say the western powers are a coalition of robbers.
Money is what glues them together,
Money is also what drives them apart.
Europe, if partnering with Huawei, smells a golden opportunity to drive ahead of and gains more interests than the US in terms of 5G and beyond.
Failing that, Europe will lag behind Asia, and this is something white people cannot stomach. And Europeans are showing themselves to be pragmatic, they are more willing to adapt to changes. But America has been the top dog for too long and the US elites are just not willing to go down without a solid fight.
I see a new Asia-Europe alliance emerging, unshackled by American meddling and interference.
In that light, the One Belt One Road project is a brilliant strategic move by Beijing.

Pure delusion and overt racism.
 

Max Demian

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I must admit I am surprised that it happened this early. I thought the Europeans would go down with the ship one last time from the arm-twisting of their American captain. I thought they'd gun it out a little longer, stay with their hobbled shells of what they delude themselves to be "5G" connectivity until they see that before they can even catch up to today's Huawei 5G, the Chinese have already unleashed true 6G. I thought that's when they'd all throw in the towel and jump ship.

If they really want, the US, EU and Japan could quickly shatter China's 5G ambition. Just deny them access to foundries and tools needed to manufacture these chips at competitive nodes. Game over.

Maybe by 2025 they have something competitive with today's tech, but even that would be a stretch ...
 

weig2000

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If they really want, the US, EU and Japan could quickly shatter China's 5G ambition. Just deny them access to foundries and tools needed to manufacture these chips at competitive nodes. Game over.

Maybe by 2025 they have something competitive with today's tech, but even that would be a stretch ...

Why would they do that? It might be some Americans' dream come true that the world, well, at least "our allies," joined hands led by the US to contain China, thus upholding the US hegemony, I mean, the "rule-based international order." But as one of the Huawei's rotating Chairmen Xu Zhijun said, 5G is not atomic bomb. Huawei invests huge amount of money in R&D, developed the most advanced technologies, and bring the technologies to the world. Europe and the world have enjoyed good quality telecommunication infrastructure at reasonable cost due in no small part to Huawei. Ericson and Nokia, both European companies, have substantial market shares in China, one of the largest telecom equipment market in the world. Many American companies also benefited significantly from Huawei's success as suppliers, with revenues in tens of billions dollars.

The US government has gone out of its way to crush Huawei, resorting to extradition/hostage-taking, criminal indictments, sting operation. Have you noticed that none of these are even mentioned as factors by other countries in considering if they will allow Huawei equipment in their 5G network? The only thing they're concerned is cybersecurity and no one has any evidence against Huawei, other than scaremongering.
 
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