bladerunner
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LOL for many years Western commentaters described China as having the worlds biggest military museum. Maybe they should have stayed quiet.
Is China planning a Military Strike beyond its borders?
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LOL for many years Western commentaters described China as having the worlds biggest military museum. Maybe they should have stayed quiet.
Yeah it is justified for the US to want to sabotage the development of potential competitors.
But it would be nice every once in a while to hear this in mainstream media, or for either country's government to admit they are doing this or accuse the other of sabotaging.
But then of course we'll start a tennis game of useless accusations thrown back and forward...
Basically, the biggest thorn in my side on this subject is that the West is being very hypocritical about military development with China.
bladerunner
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In what way?
Like... The west, or America in this case already expanding it's military to questionable lengths, but they are getting angry over China trying to catch up and get a military which is more in line with it's growing economic power.
Also they're asking "oh what does China need a powerful military for?" while they're starting to sell advanced arms to India (as an example).
And they're complaining over China increasing it's power projection beyond Taiwan while they have the world's most advanced and capable military not to mention having the world's most dominant network of foreign bases.
Not wanting to be too finger pointing, but some articles on strategycentre.com kind of show this, as well as the already mentioned repitive western media reports on China's military.
bladerunner
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I completely agree that America has certainly been good to the world of which it's contributions are too numerous to count.
But I feel that their questioning of why China might want to expand it's military is redundant. Ask themselves that question and I think that some answers would be the same as what China would give.
America has said before that China should take up more responsibility internationally but has continues to create unease internationally about China's military power without thinking why China might want such a capability.. In the media at least.
Well it's certainly not only Chinese people which are saying China's going to be great etc etc. Media, books etc all have information predicting how it's going to be the "chinese century" etc, regardless of whether that is true or not. And I think the chinese patriotism in terms of how great china will be is not completely unfounded, and my personal optimism on China's future stems from Western information not just patriotism, so I'm not sure if that's good enough
And what's Chinese patriotism got to do with the US talks about China's military development?
Going back to what I said earlier, am I wrong in saying that the US is a being a bit hypocritical in terms of talking about China's military development? Espicially when they've got the world's most advanced, capable, largest (not in troop numbers but like ships and planes and such).
But of course how many of us aren't hypocrites in one way or another...
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On the America supplying India with arms thing... I used India as an example because India and China do have a few similarities, such as having large populations, and growing influence etc. But the US seem to be willing to sell India advanced weapons and advocate India's place in the world and support it's growing military power while going the other way for China. The two countries are similar of course but also different in that India is "democratic" and China is "communist" But I doubt that this is the reason for the US having such different stances towards the two countries.
The reason I think for the US giving so much support to India's military development is to have a counterweight towards China in the region - and then we find ourselves full circle again in that the US is wanting to limit China's military development so that it would continue to be the dominant world power etc etc... Basically wanting to stay on top as long as possible.
And there's nothing wrong with that, I just wish they could admit that instead of having to be so hypocritical and making it seem like China's the bad guy in wanting to develop it's military.
Phew. Very frustrating personally I think. At least for me.
Anyway I'm waaaaaay off topic now. SOooo.. yeah.
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bladerunner
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While there is nothing at all wrong with patriotism Per Se I used the word jingoism, which to me has some dark militiristic undertones underlying the patriotism. I think the West often link rightly or wrongly Chinese jingoism and nationalism with the German Nazi era.
Quite so , Read this it's Blairs private views about China compared to his postion when he was PM. or has to adopt if he gets the EU Presidency job
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bladerunner
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solarz
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Unfortunately, the US legitimizes its government through public approval, and it's fair to say that not many among the American public would support deliberately sabotaging foreign countries in order to maintain its own global supremacy.
Thus, the US conducts such activities under humanitarian pretexts. This is wrong because it is essentially lying to the American people.