manqiangrexue
Brigadier
LOL Americans have begun to accept daily deadly rioting in major cities as normal or "usual"...
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@TerraN_EmpirE you're laughing all over the place here. Good for you! If I loved America, laughter would be the farthest thing from my mind right now.
Yea, maybe you have missed something, because group on group violence is not "politics as usual," even in the US. As long as you have group vs individual, or group vs state, that's business as usual. But as soon as you get 1 armed political group killing a 2nd armed political group on the streets, that already meets the basic definition of a civil war. Both lefties and now a trumper have died in the last week, due to armed vigilantes on both sides. So yea, you've already passed into the lowest level of civil war, and all indications point to further escalation.
But hey, you don't have to listen to me. You can listen to two of your own veterans, one of whom is former DEVGRU:
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p.s. My advice, dear Terran: Forget about sanctioning Iran. Worry about helping your own people, many of whom are hurting just as much (or worse) than people in Iran right now.
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TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
In case you have forgotten the point is to prevent a nuclear Iran. The sanctions are a tool to do that. Not the end game unto themselves.
In January of this year the E3 called out Iran after it broke the agreement limits.
But then arms sales from Russia and China don’t help the Iranians especially if those weapons are turned on protesters do they?
Where are your cry’s of
when the Iranians talk of missiles jet fighters and skim the Rosoboronexport catalog?
Second what you are coming at me with me are a number of events in major cities of the US events that are political in nature. Riots are nothing new. And have happened quite regularly. Do a google search every year for the last 20 there has been at least one major civil disorder event. That’s life only difference a lot more people looking to act out in an election year with everything locked up by order of the state and municipal government a lot less enforcement of proper protection and a lot of prisons were cleared out to prevent mass infection events.
But hay Democracy is messy that way. Yet it’s still nothing compared to other parts of the world.
I do love the US, I take strength to laugh knowing that on this earth it is blessed and will persevere on. I also laugh at the amount of attention you heap on any post that doesn’t play to your chosen narratives. Despite claims to the contrary it’s not as bad as many make it out to be. Civil disputes and riots are part of life. The difference is when they end and order is restored if the nation can build again or if it fails. I know it will mend. I also know much of this will end soon November is coming.
As you all well know and regularly voice your opinion on Hong Kong is also subject these days to Civil disorder. People there don’t like what is happening.
Iran has had rolling riots for the last few years to. With typical response of executions.
Back to sanctions
Wait oh the US lost... did it? Because the sanctions expire October 18. The US is applying pressure to activate the Snap back clause. It might not work. I admit that the other members might deny or launch a counter. Yet it’s worth a shot.
Why? It should be telling that even as we are this close the IROI are rolling out new missiles. As our Friend from Tehran cranks out the propaganda. Rejoicing at the expulsion of the crusaders from castles they already planed to leave. In a broken state as much of Iran’s creation as the US. He posted of a new engine Speckd for a business jet yet rather than trying to sell planes commercially he talks of a Missiles and UCAVS.
They want weapons everything else be damned.
Iran sits squared off against other states in a powder keg region. A long running Cold War against the Saudis. Neighbored by two states they helped all but collapse in the last 30 years. With a third deep on the way down.
If Iran buy arms the Saudis, the Turks, Egypt, Algeria the UAE buy arms.
Just this past two weeks a glimmer of light in the region the UAE and Israel official recognition. What would a sudden arms race do? A few days before I think shows a possible future Beirut. If Iran gets a nuclear program everyone gets one. Then it’s only a matter of time. So yes Live, Laugh, Love and meme to your heart’s content.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
That's funny justification; riots are nothing new. So basically in order for riots to be considered serious, you have to have invented them? LOL And every year, there's at least one but this year, there's 400 so that means this year's just like all the other years, right? Hilarious
OK, you keep it. China's governmental system isn't messy that way so we prefer ours.
Where? Somalia? LOLOL
Equation
Lieutenant General
So why does Israel has nukes when they're not suppose to? Iran should pursue to have one as well just like India and Pakistan. The bottom line is the US doesn't want to disturb the OPEC and Israel status quo in the Middle East threaten by Iran.
antiterror13
Brigadier
antiterror13
Brigadier
Can the US veto it?
Yea, good luck with that. If there's one thing that Iran has learned from all of this, it's this: Never trust in American promises.
I'm just happy that Pakistan had already learned this lesson (albeit, our case was a bit different). That psychotic hypocrite Clinton also promised us a bunch of money and toys if we didn't test nukes. We told him to F*** off, and tested nukes the next day. Our sanctions started in 1990, by the way, and we still tested, despite the three decades it cost us. But whatever, after a long time of hardship, things are looking good, thank God.
So yea, I hope Iran learns the lesson and develops/tests nukes ASAP.
You don't "know" that the riots will calm down after your election. That's an assumption. Let's see what happens, it's not that far away.
No - the way it works is that one party must request to trigger the snapback process. The problem is that the rest of the UNSC does not recognise the US as a 'party' to the JCPOA (as the US themselves said in the past that they were withdrawing from the JCPOA and no longer a party!) so they do not recognise US attempts to trigger the process.
The invoking party must also go through a 30-day good-faith mediation period to resolve the purported non-compliance, but the US obviously has not done this.
But, if the US did manage to invoke the snapback mechanism (by getting a majority of the UNSC to agree - so far only Dominican Republic agrees!), then there are 30 days for the UNSC to pass a resolution to MAINTAIN the JCPOA. The US could veto any such resolution and effectively block it. Then, at the end of the 30 days if no resolution was passed, all prior UNSC sanctions would automatically 'snap back' into place.
China is on second/third generation single crystal technology and is building far more powerful turbofan engines than Iran. But Iran is also a much smaller country with a comparatively tiny military budget and subject to a brutal economic siege by the US - so it's a great achievement for Iranian industry and military. Very few countries can develop such advanced indigenous turbofan engines and now Iran is a a member of that club.Perhaps China can import them now from Iran