Jura The idiot
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your French there yet?
I heard Yesterday at 10:08 PM
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Even the French Foreign Ministry had that any European effort would “naturally have to be co-ordinated with the US on the operational level.”
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I heard Yesterday at 10:08 PM
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Even the French Foreign Ministry had that any European effort would “naturally have to be co-ordinated with the US on the operational level.”
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Jura The idiot
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UK Joins US in Strait of Hormuz Naval Security Mission
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"Last month, then-U.K. Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt announced that the U.K. would join with European allies to form a "maritime protection mission" in the strait.
Hunt has since lost his job, ..."
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UK Joins US in Strait of Hormuz Naval Security Mission
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"Last month, then-U.K. Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt announced that the U.K. would join with European allies to form a "maritime protection mission" in the strait.
Hunt has since lost his job, ..."
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Brumby
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Current US airpower in the Persian Gulf based on publicly available information.
The USAF has deployed 12 F-22As to Al Udeid Air Base, Qatar, for the first time. A squadron of F-22 Raptors from the 1st Fighter Wing and its Air National Guard associate unit the 192nd FW at Joint Base Langley-Eustis, Virginia, arrived at Al Udeid, Qatar, on June 27, marking the first deployment for the type at this base.
Al Dhafra’s 380th AEW is currently hosting F-35As and F-15C/Es, with more Strike Eagles at an undisclosed location, plus 1st Fighter Wing F-22 Raptors at Al Udeid, Qatar.
F-15Cs of the 493rd Expeditionary Fighter Squadron (EFS) ‘Grim Reapers’ at Al Dhafra have now been replaced by eight Florida Air National Guard F-15Cs from the 159th EFS that headed east at the end of June.
The USAF also has as many as 30 F-15E Strike Eagles allocated to CENTCOM. The 4th FW’s 336th EFS ‘Rocketeers’ arrived at Al Dhafra on June 14 with a dozen jets to supplement the 18 335th EFS ‘Chiefs’ examples that are also deployed from Seymour Johnson AFB, North Carolina.
Four B-52Hs from the 2nd Bomb Wing at Barksdale AFB that are also at Al Udeid.
The USAF has deployed 12 F-22As to Al Udeid Air Base, Qatar, for the first time. A squadron of F-22 Raptors from the 1st Fighter Wing and its Air National Guard associate unit the 192nd FW at Joint Base Langley-Eustis, Virginia, arrived at Al Udeid, Qatar, on June 27, marking the first deployment for the type at this base.
Al Dhafra’s 380th AEW is currently hosting F-35As and F-15C/Es, with more Strike Eagles at an undisclosed location, plus 1st Fighter Wing F-22 Raptors at Al Udeid, Qatar.
F-15Cs of the 493rd Expeditionary Fighter Squadron (EFS) ‘Grim Reapers’ at Al Dhafra have now been replaced by eight Florida Air National Guard F-15Cs from the 159th EFS that headed east at the end of June.
The USAF also has as many as 30 F-15E Strike Eagles allocated to CENTCOM. The 4th FW’s 336th EFS ‘Rocketeers’ arrived at Al Dhafra on June 14 with a dozen jets to supplement the 18 335th EFS ‘Chiefs’ examples that are also deployed from Seymour Johnson AFB, North Carolina.
Four B-52Hs from the 2nd Bomb Wing at Barksdale AFB that are also at Al Udeid.
These airfields can be targeted even by the S-300 missiles.
However no idea how effective they are to pick land targets, it can be relatively easy to target with it a ship, but say a hangar or an aircraft on the ground?
That would require an active homing head.
However no idea how effective they are to pick land targets, it can be relatively easy to target with it a ship, but say a hangar or an aircraft on the ground?
That would require an active homing head.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
I am not even sure where to start correcting.
First S300 is a Surface to air missile system not a Surface to Surface system.
Attacking ground targets is out.
The next two depend on where the system would be employed from.
First the Strait has varying with that in some cases out ranges the missiles used in the S300 system.
Second is curvature of the earth.
The Radar system cannot see below the horizon level. Which by curvature of the earth means that the longer the range the Radar is from the target the higher the blind spot between the ground the target has and the air the target has.
So where are you firing from?
Bandar Abbas is the Iranian base closest to Al Dhafra and it’s out of range 355km
Bushehr to Doha is longer.
Are they just going to part the system on the beach? Or better yet on an island that could be seized in retaliation?
All Soviet/ Russian SAM (since 50s) can attack land targets as well ( maybe sea, but there is not so much about that in the literature )
The I have no clue how the targeting works, but in that mode it can be nothing else just a fast ,small and very precise ballistic missile.
I presume when you shop for SAM missiles from the Almaz then you can pay extra for the active homing package ship / land attack as well, and for semi active maybe same extra GLONASS /inertial electronics.
Or maybe you can ask the same extras for thermal / optical heads, I have no clue : )
The launch is easy (knowing the CCCP/Russian military doctrine ), probably the TEL can do the strike without any need for the other parts of the battery.
If the wiki acceptable source then the S-300 missiles can reach 400km in ballistic mode.
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TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
S300 with the top of the line missiles from the S400 series the 40A6 however the radar won’t guide beyond its limits which max out on the S300 around 300km <the name is a bit of marketing for the range> and more critically the Iranians have never been sold those top of the line missiles. The Russians have them the Chinese not the Iranians. The missiles the Iranians have top out at about 200km
If you want to attack ground targets why waste a SAM
Next again the Radar cannot see below the horizon. Because of curvature of the earth the Radar has a blind space blocked by the ground and ocean between the emitter and the target. The longer the distance the more hidden by the earth. Add any structures or terrain features and it’s even more blind. Unless the radar is mounted on a high structure the distance at longer ranges can mean a huge amount of open sky. At 200km anything under 10000 ft is basically invisible to the radar. That means that hangers and structures parked aircraft don’t appear to the radar an aircraft has to be airborne to be seen by it.
TELS are neat but have limits and the factors here are need of both the radar to see the target and missile to attack it. Those have to be in a place you can move and set up the system for. That means a base of operations. You can’t just park it on a beach as you need security and maintenance you also need to be sure you can move the system to the site.
Both airbases are inland and the distance of the Strait takes up range for the missile to.
Could the Iranians start launching Scuds at the Air bases? Yes. Could they deny them operations by S300? Not really. The systems would be at the edge of there ranges. And that’s not even tossing in that both bases have VLO aircraft.
If you want to attack ground targets why waste a SAM
Next again the Radar cannot see below the horizon. Because of curvature of the earth the Radar has a blind space blocked by the ground and ocean between the emitter and the target. The longer the distance the more hidden by the earth. Add any structures or terrain features and it’s even more blind. Unless the radar is mounted on a high structure the distance at longer ranges can mean a huge amount of open sky. At 200km anything under 10000 ft is basically invisible to the radar. That means that hangers and structures parked aircraft don’t appear to the radar an aircraft has to be airborne to be seen by it.
TELS are neat but have limits and the factors here are need of both the radar to see the target and missile to attack it. Those have to be in a place you can move and set up the system for. That means a base of operations. You can’t just park it on a beach as you need security and maintenance you also need to be sure you can move the system to the site.
Both airbases are inland and the distance of the Strait takes up range for the missile to.
Could the Iranians start launching Scuds at the Air bases? Yes. Could they deny them operations by S300? Not really. The systems would be at the edge of there ranges. And that’s not even tossing in that both bases have VLO aircraft.