Infantry Combat Equipment (non-firearm): Vests, Body Armor, NVGs, etc.

wssth0306

Junior Member
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A plate to protect against 12.7x108mm armor piercing rounds, weight under 5kg.

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yeah I don't know about that , if you are getting hit by a 50cal that already a bad day , and since 50cal is mostly machine guns , it won't just be 1 bullet flying at you.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Machine guns in real life rarely achieve multi-hits on man sized targets at range in combat, much less a ballistic plate. If you are getting engaged by a 50 HMG, getting hit where you haven’t got plate coverage is going to be an infinitely bigger risk than a super lucky double tap within close proximity of each other to punch through your 50 cal rated plate. I would much prefer a quick end from a double tap to the chest than a slower and far more painful death from an exploded leg or ripped open abdomen for example.

But even if the plate stops a 50, I’m pretty sure you are going to have broken ribs and internal bleeding at a minimum afterwards, so your fight is done. This is just meant to try and save your life, multi-hit capacity is utterly pointless.
 

wssth0306

Junior Member
Registered Member
Machine guns in real life rarely achieve multi-hits on man sized targets at range in combat, much less a ballistic plate. If you are getting engaged by a 50 HMG, getting hit where you haven’t got plate coverage is going to be an infinitely bigger risk than a super lucky double tap within close proximity of each other to punch through your 50 cal rated plate. I would much prefer a quick end from a double tap to the chest than a slower and far more painful death from an exploded leg or ripped open abdomen for example.

But even if the plate stops a 50, I’m pretty sure you are going to have broken ribs and internal bleeding at a minimum afterwards, so your fight is done. This is just meant to try and save your life, multi-hit capacity is utterly pointless.
And that kinda my point , I am not sure I want to survive a 50cal hit even with the plate , even it stops it , dying a slow death of a collapsed lung, internal bleeding . I get the point that it increase the chance of survival , but it sorta striks me as giving you a choice of dying fast or slow.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
And that kinda my point , I am not sure I want to survive a 50cal hit even with the plate , even it stops it , dying a slow death of a collapsed lung, internal bleeding . I get the point that it increase the chance of survival , but it sorta striks me as giving you a choice of dying fast or slow.

Getting hit by a 50 with a plate that can stop it will almost certainly incapacitate you and cause you serious injuries, but it shouldn’t be lethal. At least not in the short term.

Whatever pain and suffering you might endure from the blunt force trauma from the plate will be incomparable to what it would be like taking a non-instant-fatal 50 cal hit without said plate.

If given the choice, I would take the plate every time as that’s just better odds of survival and less pain and suffering.

But to be honest, I think we are all going off on a tangent with the focus on 50 cals. What this plate is really going to do is utterly fuck up America’s planned switch to 6.5mm as a means to more reliably punch through existing common issue plates, as now they have all the drawbacks of a much bigger caliber without the cornerstone benefit that was supposed to bring in mitigating against opfor plates.
 

Saru

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yeah I don't know about that , if you are getting hit by a 50cal that already a bad day , and since 50cal is mostly machine guns , it won't just be 1 bullet flying at you.
You can never have too much protection unless it puts you at disadvantage, I don't see the problem with this plate.
 
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