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First they need to deal with the output efficiency of their shipbuilding industry, especially the state-owned one which awarded the navy's contracts.
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asif iqbal
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anyone operating a carrier is a big value target for any navy, india will have 3, and we cant rely on the fact they will be poorly trained, 2 naval air sqaudrons in the form of the Mig29K is a big headache for any navy
using anti-ship missiles is just one part of the overall solution, Pakistan also has the Harpoon Block II and Exocets, but our Exocets are old, i dont even recall the last time i seen a Naval Mirage carrying a real live exocet we always use dummys, plus we dont have very many of them
Harpoon is good but its expensive, and we have limited numbers
this puts C802 as the frontrunner for anti-ship role
using a combination of C802+JF17+ZDK-03+Submarines is the way to go, a ship cant easily slip any these used in combination
if we had a strong surface force i would say maybe we could use them too, but PN lacks air defence, if we get something like Type 056/054A we could probably engage in a surface warfare but with just 4 F22Ps it will be at a massive disadvantage
having 6 advanced long endurance Yuans will definetly be a strong force multiplier for Pakistan, i hope we can also get medium/heavy lift helos for ASW, like Z15 and AC313, to replace our Seakings and Alouttes
The Indian ASW capability has improved by orders of magnitude since the 70s, and with the new ASW patrol aircraft, they will only get better.
They will take all of this into consideration before committing any of their high value assetts, you can be sure.
Hopefully, it will never come to that.
asif iqbal
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I agree Jeff i hope it doesnt to come that either but the reality tells a much different story
India has 700 million people without access to water and sanitation, yet the military has almost un-capped budget for whatever they want, if they want it they get, they are spending money like no tommorow
why does india need 3 aircraft carriers? UN has reported that the highest concentration of troops in a foreign land is in Kashmir, where 700,000 Indian troops are entrenched
point is, this is a volitile region where a single incident can lead to war, like when India shot down a unarmed routine Atlantqie flight in 1999
india has border disputes with all its neighbours, they dont get along with Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Pakistan, they dont get along with China
I hope war doesnt happen cus it only takes countrys back decades, in terms of the economy but unfort i also know it is inevitable
indian ASW has got better since 1970s but Pakistans submarines have also got better is well, they can dive deeper, faster and stay submerged for longer
India has 700 million people without access to water and sanitation, yet the military has almost un-capped budget for whatever they want, if they want it they get, they are spending money like no tommorow
why does india need 3 aircraft carriers? UN has reported that the highest concentration of troops in a foreign land is in Kashmir, where 700,000 Indian troops are entrenched
point is, this is a volitile region where a single incident can lead to war, like when India shot down a unarmed routine Atlantqie flight in 1999
india has border disputes with all its neighbours, they dont get along with Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Pakistan, they dont get along with China
I hope war doesnt happen cus it only takes countrys back decades, in terms of the economy but unfort i also know it is inevitable
indian ASW has got better since 1970s but Pakistans submarines have also got better is well, they can dive deeper, faster and stay submerged for longer
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India today test-fired an improved version of the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile, with new parameters, at the Integrated Test Range at Chandipur off the Odisha coast.
The launch comes just two days after defencescientists conducted a similar trial from the same site.
The missile, test-fired from a ground mobile launcher at the launch complex-3 of the ITR at about 1000 hours, successfully steep-divedonce again, defence scientists said after the launch.
''The BrahMos Block III version with advanced guidance algorithm was flight tested from ITR Balasore. The missile flew through the designated 290 km distance at Mach 2.8 and achieved high precision with steep dive once again. The network of telemetry stations and down range ships confirmed that the missile followed the pre designated flight path,'' said Dr Shivtanu Pillai,CEO and managing director of BrahMos Aerospace, an Indo-Russian joint venture.
''It was a text book launch achieving 100 per cent results,'' stated Dr Pillai. "Today's launch was a developmental trial of the land version of BrahMos incorporating certain new systems," he added.
The missile was completely integrated at the BrahMos Integration Complex at Hyderabad.
The flight was witnessed by senior officers from the armed forces. CEO & MD BrahMos, along with project director S Som and executive director Rear Adm S Mohapatra were present during the launch.
Plan to develop hypersonic cruise missile
India and Russia are in talks to jointly developa hypersonic cruise missile, RIA Novosti quoted Praveen Pathak, additional general manager at BrahMos Aerospace, as saying at the DefExpo in Delhi.
The two partners are expected to soon agreeon a general outline of the design for the weapon, which will be capable of flying at Mach 5-Mach 7 speeds, he said.
"In the near future, we will set up a joint working group which will work out the parameters of the missile in cooperation withdevelopers, and also decide how much each side will contribute to the project," Pathak said.
"We want to create a weapon which would not differ much from the existing BrahMos missile in weight and dimensions, so that it could be used in existing launchers on ships or mobile launchers,'' he said.
India will also carry out the first test-firing of the air-launched variant of the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile by the end of this year, Pathak said.
"We hope by the end of the year we'll carry out the first launch from an aircraft. It will be an air-launch," he said.
Work on adapting the air-launched variant of BrahMos to the Indian Air Force's Su-30MKI aircraft is being undertaken, he said, adding that several aircraft have already been modified to carry the weapon.
IAF has already taken delivery of enough of the ground-launched variant to equip two battalions, he added.
The launch comes just two days after defencescientists conducted a similar trial from the same site.
The missile, test-fired from a ground mobile launcher at the launch complex-3 of the ITR at about 1000 hours, successfully steep-divedonce again, defence scientists said after the launch.
''The BrahMos Block III version with advanced guidance algorithm was flight tested from ITR Balasore. The missile flew through the designated 290 km distance at Mach 2.8 and achieved high precision with steep dive once again. The network of telemetry stations and down range ships confirmed that the missile followed the pre designated flight path,'' said Dr Shivtanu Pillai,CEO and managing director of BrahMos Aerospace, an Indo-Russian joint venture.
''It was a text book launch achieving 100 per cent results,'' stated Dr Pillai. "Today's launch was a developmental trial of the land version of BrahMos incorporating certain new systems," he added.
The missile was completely integrated at the BrahMos Integration Complex at Hyderabad.
The flight was witnessed by senior officers from the armed forces. CEO & MD BrahMos, along with project director S Som and executive director Rear Adm S Mohapatra were present during the launch.
Plan to develop hypersonic cruise missile
India and Russia are in talks to jointly developa hypersonic cruise missile, RIA Novosti quoted Praveen Pathak, additional general manager at BrahMos Aerospace, as saying at the DefExpo in Delhi.
The two partners are expected to soon agreeon a general outline of the design for the weapon, which will be capable of flying at Mach 5-Mach 7 speeds, he said.
"In the near future, we will set up a joint working group which will work out the parameters of the missile in cooperation withdevelopers, and also decide how much each side will contribute to the project," Pathak said.
"We want to create a weapon which would not differ much from the existing BrahMos missile in weight and dimensions, so that it could be used in existing launchers on ships or mobile launchers,'' he said.
India will also carry out the first test-firing of the air-launched variant of the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile by the end of this year, Pathak said.
"We hope by the end of the year we'll carry out the first launch from an aircraft. It will be an air-launch," he said.
Work on adapting the air-launched variant of BrahMos to the Indian Air Force's Su-30MKI aircraft is being undertaken, he said, adding that several aircraft have already been modified to carry the weapon.
IAF has already taken delivery of enough of the ground-launched variant to equip two battalions, he added.
Tell me why pakistan spend even penny on its defence when you can't protect your civilian. Since, any Drone can enter your airspace and can kill anyone they want.
If you have little bit knoledge about India defence spending and pakistan defence spending than you would not talk like this. For your information, India defence spending is half than pakistan defence spending in terms of GDP( I hope that you understand the meaning of GDP). We spend many times more than pakistan in education, infrastructure, development etc.
To maintain our soverienity from external force.
INS viraat wil be retire soon when INS vikramaditya and IAC-1 joins Indian navy. And IAC-2 will take some time.
None of your buisness. We can put many troops as we want in our motherland to protect from outside force. We lost 2/3 part of kashmir and don't want to lose more. BTW. Can you post your source?
why your F-16 shot down our unarmed drone in 2002?
For your information.
our border dispute with Sri lank is negligible but there is some dispute in fishing ground
Bangladesh: you are talking about which border dispute?
And don't tell me that pakistan have no border dispute with her neighbour like India and Afghanistan.
thats your opinion. All people don't think like you.
for you Information. We are going to buy 8 P-8i posidon for ASW. As well as we posses many anti-ship missile like
*. Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missile
*. 3M-54E/3M-14E Klub Anti-Ship/Land Attack Cruise Missile (SS-N-27 Sizzler)
*. Kh-35 (SS-N-25 SwitchBlade)
*. P-20 (SS-N-2D Styx)
*. Sea Eagle missile
*. Harpoon (missile) (these missiles were recently ordered from the USA)
*. Gabriel missil
we have more submarine than you. Including nuclear power INS arihant. We also posses stealth frigate. We have more as well as better warship.
We can do the same blockade what we did in 1971.
BTW. Don't ruin this forum by posting those thing which is not related to military( I mean things like border dispute, poverty, kashmir etc).
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Wait, this would actually justify defense spending. :/ .
Indianfighter
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The Atlantique flight was a combat plane of the Pakistani Air Force, that intruded deep into Indian territory even after being warned. It went to its own fate.
The PAF on the other hand is guilty of shooting a civilian plane. Read this :
Incorrect. India has the largest border disputes with China and even then, both nations are only increasing their trade year after year. Quite unlike a belligerent Pakistan.
We gave Bangladesh their freedom from Pakistan (our soldiers died trying to liberate Bangladesh). As for Sri Lanka, why are they erecting a war memorial for Indian soldiers who fought against the dreaded LTTE ?
That's a very kiddish comment.
Now that's a myth fed to you guys on Pakistani fora. The Vikrant was at Andaman Islands actually. The PNS Ghazi was lured to Vishakhapatnam by feeding false intelligence to PN. It sank there.
Then why do you think we have a nuclear-powered Nerpa sub inducted a few weeks ago for ? Or for that matter, the Arihant submarine ? Before Pak Navy can even react, Karachi harbour will be attacked.
First complete the inquiry on why your JF-17 crashed in the mountains. Has it even undergone sea-level trials ? The Naval-LCA is ready to fly soon and shall decimate your surface and sub fleet. Even the air-force version of LCA has undergone numerous sea-trials.
Feed your impoverished populace first, and then dream of 12 submarines.
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asif iqbal
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well i am glad i have exposed you, clearly u have shown no desire to engage in any meaningful discussion
the fact that Indians are actualy signing up to sinodefence to reply says alot by you, u dont see Pakistanis joining into discussions between Russia-India do you??
the fact that Indians are actualy signing up to sinodefence to reply says alot by you, u dont see Pakistanis joining into discussions between Russia-India do you??
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