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Gessler, so it seems like the old LW-08/RAWL-02 MK III will be retained onboard these warships. SIPRI quotes 7 such radars for Kolkata Class Destroyers.

Weapons suite includes 48 SAMs, 16 SSM, 4x AK-630.
Interestingly they have included two Mareech Torpedo decoy systems on board so their goes the RBU-6000.
Also I thought they would include new Gun Missile CIWS systems for onboard these vessels.



Also regarding the P-15A the MDL has confirmed 4x8 Barak-8 VLS on board in a recent advertisment.



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Tako said:

Gessler, so it seems like the old LW-08/RAWL-02 MK III will be retained onboard these warships. SIPRI quotes 7 such radars for Kolkata Class Destroyers.

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Any solid-state AESA for the DDGs hasn't been ordered yet. So until the order takes place and deliveries commence,
both P-15A & B will have the LW-08. I thought P-15B will have it straight from start but no such, atleast not
until any order has been placed.

Weapons suite includes 48 SAMs, 16 SSM, 4x AK-630.

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Are all this info from SIPRI too? Which 48 SAMs? No way AK-630 would be used even after 2018, IN has
already sent out RFPs for new CIWS cannons.

Interestingly they have included two Mareech Torpedo decoy systems on board so their goes the RBU-6000.

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Let's see...but Mareech doesn't shoot any depth charges. Also Kamorta corvettes use both Mareech and RBU-6000s onboard.

Also regarding the P-15A the MDL has confirmed 4x8 Barak-8 VLS on board in a recent advertisment.

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I'll go through the full write-up later, but I'm not disputing the fact that there are only a total of 32 VLS cells
for SAMs. What I'm wondering is if another 32 rounds of Barak-8 are stored internally for reload, as Sengupta
and Shukla are claiming. Others have said it does not have any reloads, but has space & weight reserved for
another 16-32 VLS cells, in a possible future retrofit, if IN wants it.

Gessler said:

Looks like MDL's newly adopted modular construction methods are indeed showing their pace. At this rate, I believe the first P-15B DDG should be finished within 2017-2018, with the rest of them coming in at a
rate of one or two per year thereafter.

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I fail to see how modular construction means that much of a difference. The Kolkata class also used modular construction, but it took the lead ship some 14 years to see service. The lead ship of the Delhi class, on the other hand, took about six years without modular construction.

Building a ship's hull is comparably easy.

by78 said:

I fail to see how modular construction means that much of a difference. The Kolkata class also used modular construction, but it took the lead ship some 14 years to see service. The lead ship of the Delhi class, on the other hand, took about six years without modular construction.

Building a ship's hull is comparably easy.

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I'm not all that well versed with the methods used to build P-15A, but I can for sure that many new methods were
introduced into the yard in last 3 years. However, P-15A could never make use of them and their related procedures
in a big way. But P-15B should. It additionally serves the case that 15B is essentially the same ship as 15A, but with
some structural changes, with most of the difference being in terms of separate systems which aren't built by MDL.

IAF to induct 6th C-17 Globemaster-III airlifter on Monday



The Indian Air Force will induct its sixth C-17 Globemaster heavylift transport aircraft on Monday at the Palam air base, PTI reported. India had signed a deal for procuring 10 C-17 aircraft from the US under a deal worth around Rs 24,000 crore for augmenting its capability to supply loads and troops to the border areas.

The sixth aircraft would be inducted in presence of Defense Minister Arun Jaitley, IAF officials said.

Jaitley would be given a tour inside the aircraft and would be also briefed about the capabilities of the plane.

The IAF has based the aircraft at the Hindan air base near here in Ghaziabad and has flown it extensively
across the country in the last seven-eight months of its induction into operational service.

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Gessler said:

I'll go through the full write-up later, but I'm not disputing the fact that there are only a total of 32 VLS cells
for SAMs. What I'm wondering is if another 32 rounds of Barak-8 are stored internally for reload, as Sengupta
and Shukla are claiming. Others have said it does not have any reloads, but has space & weight reserved for
another 16-32 VLS cells, in a possible future retrofit, if IN wants it.

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i too have heard rumours of another 32 barak8 stored internally which replaces the empty canisters.in the indian defence forum i saw a member saying that in another indian forum that a reputed member was claiming that there were more baraks stored internally ,and that member is said to have posted pictures to prove his point.unfortunately he didnt tell who this member was or what forum he posted on or wher those pictures can be found. if you do know then please tell me.and also what this shukla and sengupta are suposed to be saying.

Gessler said:

I'm not all that well versed with the methods used to build P-15A, but I can for sure that many new methods were introduced into the yard in last 3 years. However, P-15A could never make use of them and their related procedures in a big way. But P-15B should. It additionally serves the case that 15B is essentially the same ship as 15A, but with some structural changes, with most of the difference being in terms of separate systems which aren't built by MDL.

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And what are these 'new methods' that you are sure of?

The problem with P15A was not the hull, which was finished in three years (although this is also very slow by international standards). The real problem was integrating her mostly imported subsystems, which took a further 11 years. Therefore, system integration is what delayed the project repeatedly.

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And what are these 'new methods' that you are sure of?

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While I would need to refer to a link to get those, one of the most important ones is shown right there
in the picture - the goliath crane. Modular construction methods were still very primitive at MDL when
P-15As' hulls were built.