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zavve

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Chandragupt said:
Tejas LCA is not a deck based fighter , it was not meant to operate from aircraft carriers yet it can takeoff and land from an aircraft carrier , it shows how well designed this aircraft is
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It definitely does not show how "well-designed" Tejas is. Most current fighters' jets could land on a carrier if modified (see Sea-Gripen, Mig-29K J15/Su-33, Navalized Typhoon, V-1600, Su-25UTG for example).
 
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zavve said:
It definitely does not show how "well-designed" Tejas is. Most current fighters' jets could land on a carrier if modified (see Sea-Gripen, Mig-29K J15/Su-33, Navalized Typhoon, V-1600, Su-25UTG for example).
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Except for gripen all the other aircrafts you mentioned are twin engine , SAAB designed gripen maritime for India but Indian navy selected Rafale M because they wanted a twin engine deck based fighter which not only has high thrust to weight ratio but also is more reliable , in case an engine fails it can return to the deck using another engine
But even in future if Indian navy decides to use a single engine fighter jet it would be Tejas MK2
 
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It doesn't prove that at all. Fuel and payload adds significant weight to a plane, that LCA is clearly not carrying anything.

Most are twin engined for good reason. The only in service naval single engined jet that can take off from a carrier is the F-35B, and even that looks slow and scary to watch when taking off.
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Tejas MK1A uses GF F404 which produces 85KN of thrust it’s not a powerful engine like 191KN Pratt and Whitney engine of F35B but the weight of Tejas is exceptionally low that’s the reason why it’s able to takeoff and land on an aircraft carrier deck , The Tejas MK2 would have a slightly increased weight but the GE F414 engine used has a significantly increased thrust of 98KN which will further increase the ease of taking off from an aircraft carrier
 
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It doesn't prove that at all. Fuel and payload adds significant weight to a plane, that LCA is clearly not carrying anything.

Most are twin engined for good reason. The only in service naval single engined jet that can take off from a carrier is the F-35B, and even that looks slow and scary to watch when taking off.
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I think in 2020 when it took off from INS Vikramaditya (Admiral Gorsshkov) it was carrying 4 missiles i need to find out those images
i found this Image from 2019 in which Four missiles are visible on the Naval LCA as it takes off from the land-based test facility in Goa
 

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Chandragupt said:
Tejas MK1A uses GF F404 which produces 85KN of thrust it’s not a powerful engine like 191KN Pratt and Whitney engine of F35B but the weight of Tejas is exceptionally low that’s the reason why it’s able to takeoff and land on an aircraft deck , The Tejas MK2 would have a slightly increased weight but the GE F414 engine used has a significantly increased thrust of 98KN which will further increase the ease of taking off from an aircraft carrier
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A lot of aircrafts with lower thrust ratio and single jet engine have been used in aircraft carrier: Etandard, Corsair, Skyhawk, Skyray, Cougar, Tiger ...

They all have been build and used in way larger quantity and in way shorter time than the Tejas.... Tejas is nothing more than a stepping stone to build upon if India is able to do so, nothing more.
 
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I think in 2020 when it took off from INS Vikramaditya (Admiral Gorsshkov) it was carrying 4 missiles i need to find out those images
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4 AAM is a really bad loadout for a carrier-based fighter. An air-to-air missile is a lot lighter than ASuW missiles/bombs.
 
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A lot of aircrafts with lower thrust ratio and single jet engine have been used in aircraft carrier: Etandard, Corsair, Skyhawk, Skyray, Cougar, Tiger ...

They all have been build and used in way larger quantity and in way shorter time than the Tejas.... Tejas is nothing more than a stepping stone to build upon if India is able to do so, nothing more.
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Tejas is meant to replace Mig21 fleet of IAF and it’s designed for point defense
Takeoff and landing from an aircraft carrier is only to show the capabilities of this fighter jet
India is working on TEDBF (Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter) for Indian navy it would be a twin engine fighter jet and is being designed specifically to operate from aircraft carriers
 

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Tejas is meant to replace Mig21 fleet of IAF and it’s designed for point defense
Takeoff and landing from an aircraft carrier is only to show the capabilities of this fighter jet
India is working on TEDBF (Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter) for Indian navy it would be a twin engine fighter jet and is being designed specifically to operate from aircraft carriers
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Replacing a near worthless fighter with another... just a small batch to test manifacturing process and airframe fatigue.

It will serve to keep some level of ego and having an active fighter aircraft designing team.
 
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I never saw a light combat aircraft landing and taking off from an aircraft carrier
I didn't find any video showing gripen landing or taking off from an aircraft carrier if someone has the video he/she should post it here
 
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