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Indian defense forces out of funds, won't sustain 10-day war, says Parliament Standing Committee

General Chand has told the committee that allocation of Rs 21,338 crore for modernization is insufficient. Paying for liabilities carried over the previous year 2017 will hardly leave any funds for new schemes (acquisition of new weapon systems) in 2018-19.

ARMY:
Recently, to cut the red-tape and speed-up the process of acquisition the government has allowed the Vice-Chief of Army Staff make emergency purchases of Rs 14,000 crore.
Shockingly, the committee found that no separate allocation was made in this regard. The money has to be allocated from within the Army's Budget, thereby leaving no choice but to re-prioritize expending the budgetary resources by way of going slow on some planned acquisitions, reducing the spending etc.

"The Committee cannot help expressing unhappiness with the state of affairs in the Ministry with regard to existing scenario of 'perimeter security' of defense establishments and installations, including offshore establishments. The Sunjuwan attack underscores the need for speedy measures," the committee said.

The shortfall of funds for army alone has shortfall is staggering Rs 42,512.14 crore.

"Keeping in view the increasing threat perception, which includes various occurrences of external strife and internal dissidence such as Doklam, increased external activities in Tibet over a year, rampant cross border firing, militant activities etc the current budget is not supportive to the inevitable needs of the Army," the committee observed.

NAVY

Similarly the Navy has been allocated only 70 per cent of the funds that it had asked for. Against a projected need of of Rs 11,320.39 crore, the allocation has only been to the extent of Rs 7,985.06 crore.

The Committee observed that the allocation amounts to an increase of only Rs 220 crore over Revised Estimate of 2017-18, which works out to a rise of only 2.84 per cent.
The Parliamentary committee has said the Indian Navy has been given only Rs 20,003.71 crore for modernization and new weapon platforms whereas the Navy wanted at least of Rs 33,458.38 crore for the capital segment, the allocation made has been Rs 20,003.71 crore. And, shockingly, it is Rs 5000 crore short when it comes to paying for committed liabilities-liabilities that have incurred in previous years to be paid in the current financial year.

This amounts to a huge shortfall of almost 40 per cent of the budget projected as required and "will indeed have a cascading impact on the operational preparedness and technological up-gradation of the Navy"

AIR FORCE:
The Committee have gathered that in 2016-17 the customs duty paid was to the tune of Rs 943.62 crore, which has since hiked up to Rs 1,614.28 crore in 2017-18.

"This amount has not been reimbursed to the Air Force during the year," the committee has observed.

Like the other two services that IAF too is severely cash strapped. The committee has found that IAF is short by at at least Rs 6,400 crore when it comes budgeted revenue expenditure.
While the IAF had asked for Rs 1,14,526 crore only Rs 65,891 crore have been allocated. In a scathing remark the committee says the budget does not reflect the intent of achieving even the strategic objectives.

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TheHack said:

Indian defense forces out of funds, won't sustain 10-day war, says Parliament Standing Committee

General Chand has told the committee that allocation of Rs 21,338 crore for modernization is insufficient. Paying for liabilities carried over the previous year 2017 will hardly leave any funds for new schemes (acquisition of new weapon systems) in 2018-19.

ARMY:
Recently, to cut the red-tape and speed-up the process of acquisition the government has allowed the Vice-Chief of Army Staff make emergency purchases of Rs 14,000 crore.
Shockingly, the committee found that no separate allocation was made in this regard. The money has to be allocated from within the Army's Budget, thereby leaving no choice but to re-prioritize expending the budgetary resources by way of going slow on some planned acquisitions, reducing the spending etc.

"The Committee cannot help expressing unhappiness with the state of affairs in the Ministry with regard to existing scenario of 'perimeter security' of defense establishments and installations, including offshore establishments. The Sunjuwan attack underscores the need for speedy measures," the committee said.

The shortfall of funds for army alone has shortfall is staggering Rs 42,512.14 crore.

"Keeping in view the increasing threat perception, which includes various occurrences of external strife and internal dissidence such as Doklam, increased external activities in Tibet over a year, rampant cross border firing, militant activities etc the current budget is not supportive to the inevitable needs of the Army," the committee observed.

NAVY

Similarly the Navy has been allocated only 70 per cent of the funds that it had asked for. Against a projected need of of Rs 11,320.39 crore, the allocation has only been to the extent of Rs 7,985.06 crore.

The Committee observed that the allocation amounts to an increase of only Rs 220 crore over Revised Estimate of 2017-18, which works out to a rise of only 2.84 per cent.
The Parliamentary committee has said the Indian Navy has been given only Rs 20,003.71 crore for modernization and new weapon platforms whereas the Navy wanted at least of Rs 33,458.38 crore for the capital segment, the allocation made has been Rs 20,003.71 crore. And, shockingly, it is Rs 5000 crore short when it comes to paying for committed liabilities-liabilities that have incurred in previous years to be paid in the current financial year.

This amounts to a huge shortfall of almost 40 per cent of the budget projected as required and "will indeed have a cascading impact on the operational preparedness and technological up-gradation of the Navy"

AIR FORCE:
The Committee have gathered that in 2016-17 the customs duty paid was to the tune of Rs 943.62 crore, which has since hiked up to Rs 1,614.28 crore in 2017-18.

"This amount has not been reimbursed to the Air Force during the year," the committee has observed.

Like the other two services that IAF too is severely cash strapped. The committee has found that IAF is short by at at least Rs 6,400 crore when it comes budgeted revenue expenditure.
While the IAF had asked for Rs 1,14,526 crore only Rs 65,891 crore have been allocated. In a scathing remark the committee says the budget does not reflect the intent of achieving even the strategic objectives.

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Why don't India use normal English units? What is a crore? Can't they just put it as million or billion dollars are rupees.

PiSigma said:

Why don't India use normal English units? What is a crore? Can't they just put it as million or billion dollars are rupees.

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Yeah my thoughts exactly, but of course the indian news is "allegedly" meant for the consumption of the indian public.

Here's the answer to your question:

10 million = 1 crore
100 million = 10 crore

So the figure mentioned in the above article, Indian Rupees 21,338 crore, will equate to InR 213 billion. Which equates to 3.2 billion U.S dollars.

Dizasta1 said:

Yeah my thoughts exactly, but of course the indian news is "allegedly" meant for the consumption of the indian public.

Here's the answer to your question:

10 million = 1 crore
100 million = 10 crore

So the figure mentioned in the above article, Indian Rupees 21,338 crore, will equate to InR 213 billion. Which equates to 3.2 billion U.S dollars.

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Thanks.
I just find Indian articles always use Indian terms for an English article strange. It is like the author forgot/didn't know the English equivalent and just got lazy and used the Hindi word. A lot of the Indians (in India, not Canada) I worked with do that, and it is annoying as hell.

Umm, really? The English-speaking nations do not own the English language. India is adapting and making English its own, just as all nations do. Why change a perfectly functional system for describing numbers just because you are using a different language?

Even your example is poor, given that there are two distinct definitions of the word "billion" in use, i.e. one thousand million (American) and one million million (British).

If you can't be bothered to learn simple numbers like crore and lakh, why are you interested in Indian news in the first place? Converting all the units Americans use to something I understand (e.g. 1 gallon = ~3.8 litres) takes far more effort. Converting thousand/million/billion etc. to crore and lakh is just a question of many zeroes.

Lethe said:

Umm, really? The English-speaking nations do not own the English language. India is adapting and making English its own, just as all nations do. Why change a perfectly functional system for describing numbers just because you are using a different language?

Even your example is poor, given that there are two distinct definitions of the word "billion" in use, i.e. one thousand million (American) and one million million (British).

If you can't be bothered to learn simple numbers like crore and lakh, why are you interested in Indian news in the first place? Converting all the units Americans use to something I understand (e.g. 1 gallon = ~3.8 litres) takes far more effort. Converting thousand/million/billion etc. to crore and lakh is just a question of many zeroes.

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If they are going to create random words and use them then its called hinglish. The whole point of having English as an international language is so most people could understand it without translation. If everyone start to add their own words, like a chinglish speaker to a hinglish speaker, might as well get a translator. The fact the article is in English means it is meant for an international audience, which means they should not add words non-indians don't understand.

You don't see Chinese news reports using wan for all their units. Because they know the only readers of their English reports are foreigners.

No one cares about British meaning of words anymore. I'm Canadian, and we only use the american definition, in fact the entire scientific community only use the american definition. A million million is a trillion.

I really don't care about the I dian military, I'm just here to read their snafu.

PiSigma said:

The fact the article is in English means it is meant for an international audience, which means they should not add words non-indians don't understand.

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Indians use English for their own purposes. It is a common language of government, academia and the corporate world because it bridges the various differing native languages within India such that someone from Punjab can communicate with someone from Tamil Nadu. The unfortunate flipside of this is that it remains very class-bound, with poorer Indians have little access to English and are thus cut off from the discourse of the upper classes. Nonetheless, such writers are not writing for you or me, we are just fortunate enough to be able to listen in.

No one cares about British meaning of words anymore. I'm Canadian, and we only use the american definition, in fact the entire scientific community only use the american definition. A million million is a trillion.

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Nor do Indians care what some Canadian thinks about how they should use language. Indeed, as the second largest English-speaking nation in the world it is as much their language as ours. This is the flip-side of English as a "global language" -- it is no longer ours to control. Get used to it.

India has already left its mark on the English language with words like "bungalow", "juggernaut", and "thug". I have no doubt that a century from now India's influence on the global language will have multiplied tenfold -- certainly far exceeding any Canadian influence -- and many of the "foreign" (i.e. Hindi, etc.) words that you do not understand will be understood by many non-native speakers.

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India Russia relations have touched a *new low* . . .

Many eye it as a shift of poles, as India now is tilted more towards western countries for the Defense related needs . . .

Russia too seems to be finding more partners in the region such as it's latest signed Defense Agreements and pacts with Indians rival Pakistan.

Russia lifted Arms embargo on Pakistan in early 2014 and since than have signed multiple deals with Pakistan. Recently from few years, the continual sequence of joint Pakistan Russia Military Drills have also started.