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Sikorsky Set To Win Quarrelsome Indian Contest
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This was coming. In more than one way. And there's really no other way to put it. The paperwork hasn't gone out officially yet, but the NHIndustries NH90 is effectively out of the Indian Navy's multirole helicopter (MRH) contest, a fight for a 16 copter deal in which it squared off against Sikorsky's S-70B Sea Hawk. It isn't really just about being right (I had also written of the possible effects), but about how NHIndustries' fate was probably sealed long before the AgustaWestland VVIP helicopter scandal threw a cloud over all of Finmeccanica's potential business (NHIndustries is 32% owned by AgustaWestland) in India.

In the readily hostile world of competitive defence contracting, the MRH competition has been a particularly ill-tempered one, with NHIndustries managing the irk the Indian Navy in 2012 with a salvo of letters protesting preferential treatment to Sikorsky's product. What followed was an unusually hostile back-and-forth in which NHIndustries even managed annoy its end customer, the Indian Navy, enough to attract counter-accusations of misdemeanour. But NHIndustries had faith in process. If it was going to lose a deal, it wasn't going to do it without a fight. Well, a fight is precisely what it was for a few months. And then the bomb dropped.

With the AgustaWestland VVIP helicopter scandal breaking, it became rapidly clear that Finmeccanica's military business interests in India stood jeopardised. Between 2012-2014, the Indian Navy had held that both helicopters had met naval requirements. In August this year, the navy even indicated that both bids were to be opened for a final price battle. But that wasn't to be. New rules specifically evolved to deal with the Finmeccanica quagmire appear to have kicked in, forcing the Indian MoD to cut NHIndustries loose and proceed with Sikorsky.

The hostility in the competition and the nature of the allegations ensured that Sikorsky's S-70B was seen as the government's 'favoured choice' (precisely NHIndustries' protest), another juicy deal India would be throwing America's way. That was the sense, at any rate. But then none of that matters anymore. This was coming.

Oh, and this isn't just about 16 helicopters. The MRH is to be followed by the N-MRH competition for 123 helicopters. Config and requirements could be identical or largely the same. The Lockheed-Martin MH-60R will be looking to compete. And it shares an airframe with the S-70B. With the loud 'Make in India' campaign only set to get louder, the Romeo is likely to compete against Airbus Heli's EC725 Caracal.
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aksha

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Warship Deal to be Cancelled For 'Make In India' Option
India will opt out of an agreement to buy small warships from Korea - mine-sweepers - because a middleman was allegedly involved in the contract which was signed three years ago. Indian laws forbid the payment of commissions and use of agents for defence deals.

In keeping with Prime Minister Narendra Modi's "Make in India" campaign, the ships will now be built over the next seven years by the state-run Goa Shipyards using technology acquired from a foreign manufacturer.

Mine-sweepers are used to locate and destroy underwater mines planted by the enemy; they are crucial in keeping sea lanes open and safe for trade and security.

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In 2011, after years of negotiations, the government headed by Dr Manmohan Singh signed the deal which included the purchase of two mine-sweepers from Korea for 2,700 crores; another six would be manufactured in India with the Korean firm sharing its technology for an additional 6,000 crores.

The government's top lawyer, Attorney General Mukul Rohatgi, recently red-flagged the deal which was signed with South Korean manufacturer Kanganam. The company allegedly hired a middleman during the negotiations, but said this was to help with language difficulties. Because the firm made the disclosure and since no bribes were paid, it has not been blacklisted.

So the state-run Goa Ship Yard has been asked to acquire technology from the same Korean company and build the seven mine-sweepers. The first is expected to be ready in 2019.

The country has 14 ports which handle about 90 percent of the total volume of trade, but only seven operational mine-sweepers for the east and west coasts.

The new government has raised the foreign investment limit in the domestic defence industry to 49 percent from 26 percent, hoping to draw greater interest from its main arms suppliers.
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Jeff Head

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Sikorsky Set To Win Quarrelsome Indian Contest
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Yes, we discussed this on the other thread too.

India will be very well served by the Sirkorsky helicopters.

And, IMHO, India should also opt for the US helicopters (either the MH-60S or MH-60R, for thelarger Indian Navy deal. For a medium sized helicopter, there is not really a better choice than the MH-60R for ASW or the MH-60S for multi-role, and it would be very good for India to standardize on such an airframe.

Who knows, perhaps they can work out a license/kit build deal on the larger contract. Particularly since India is already beuilding large parts of the S-92, in order to win such a deal, and satisfy the "Build India," desire and win a customer for the long term...perhpas it could happen.
 
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aksha

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well according to many more than 200 helicopters will be ordered ,
its indian partner could be TATA aerospace Ltd. which already builds parts for sirkosky as you can see in post no 1325
 

aksha

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OneIndia Exclusive: DRDO to abandon Kaveri project; GTRE gets revival package

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Nov 18: The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has decided to wind up the Kaveri engine (GTX-35VS ) programme, signaling an end to a desi dream of equipping its own fighter jet with a home-grown power plant. Sources in the Ministry of Defence (MoD) confirmed to OneIndia on Tuesday that the DRDO has already moved a file recently seeking the closure of the ambitious engine development project undertaken by Bengaluru-based Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE). Exclusive:DRDO to abandon Kaveri project The proposal now needs to get the approval of the Ministry of Finance (MoF) and finally the clearance from the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) - a process expected to take at least a year. The Kaveri project, which began in the mid-80s, was aimed at powering the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas. GTRE has spent so far Rs 2,106 crore on the project so far and could only fly the engine for 73 hours on the IL-76 Flying Test Bed (FTB) in Russia. The delay in the project saw DRDO choosing the GE 404 engine for Tejas Mk-1 and GE 414 for Tejas Mk-II. GTRE gets additional funds Sources said that the DRDO has sanctioned Rs 300 crore for GTRE to take up future projects. "The lab is gearing up to take up some futuristic projects and the sanctions have been already given. Another additional sanction of Rs 700 crore is on its way to help realize these gen-next technologies," an official said. Exclusive:DRDO to abandon Kaveri project Sources confirm that a separate proposal of Rs 2,600 crore to develop engines for an ‘ambitious project' is under consideration now. The lab has been given another Rs 70 crore for a strategic programme. Part of DRDO's bold decision, confirms DG Refusing to divulge the finer details, Dr K Tamilmani, Director-General (Aero), DRDO, confirmed to OneIndia that the Kaveri project will be scrapped. "Yes. These are part of the bold stand being taken by DRDO. Whereever we have found bottlenecks for long time, with no realistic solutions, it's better to move on. It is an honest stand we are taking," Tamilmani said. When asked whether the decision was a fall out of the recent remarks made by Prime Minister Narendra Modi asking DRDO to come out of the delay trap, the senior official refused to make a direct comment. "If you are fit to run only for 50 km, why attempt 100 km? DRDO has realized its mistakes of the past and we have no hesitation in taking some bold steps," he said. Sources said that the MoF has sought some clarifications from DRDO on the Kaveri project, before the matter could finally reach the CCS. Exclusive:DRDO to abandon Kaveri project Years of hard work won't go waste: GTRE Director Dr C P Ramanarayanan, Director, GTRE, said that the DRDO decision might not be final. Leading a team of 900-plus staff at GTRE, Dr Ramanarayanan is now left with the task of inspiring the team to launch future projects. "This is not the end of the road. We have identified some 12 core areas of technologies and various teams are already at it. Years of hard work put in by the team won't go waste either," Dr Ramanarayanan, a torpedo specialist, told OneIndia. Exclusive:DRDO to abandon Kaveri project He said world over not many countries have progressed ahead in making engines. "We have made a good start and despite the delays, proved our capabilities to our best of abilities. The lessons learnt will not go down the drain. India must become self sufficient in making aero engines and our efforts will continue," he added.

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Akash missile successfully test-fired for second day
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For the second consecutive day, India successfully test-fired its indigenously developed surface-to-air ‘Akash’ missile from a test range in Odisha as part of the user trial by the air force.

The trial of the missile was ‘fully successful’, ITR director M V K V Prasad said, adding that it hit a para-barrel target.

The test—fire was a practice and evaluation trial for a new squadron and a repeat performance as the medium range missile had been test-fired successfully on Monday from the same test range.

“Some more similar trials of the missile will be conducted in this week,” he said.

Defence sources said the missile was test—fired from launch complex—3 of the Integrated Test Range at Chandipur at about 3.22 p.m.

’Akash’ missile is a medium range surface—to—air anti—aircraft defence system with a strike range of 25 km and can carry a warhead of 60 kg. It has the capability to target aircraft up to 30 km away and is packed with a battery that can track and attack several targets simultaneously.

With its capability to neutralise aerial targets like fighter jets, cruise missiles and air—to—surface missiles, defence experts compare ‘Akash’ to the similar weapons of many other advanced countries, the sources said.

’Akash’ has been developed by Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) as part of the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme.

While the air force version has already been inducted, the army version is in the final stage of induction, the defence sources said.
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Rahul M

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Ashka posted a comment on the Aircraft Carrier page from the Indian Defense Forum by a Sr. member there that analyzed the picture versus other know sat pics and determined that this pic is very dated and is not the Vikrant at all. That it predates the Vikrant construction.

Here was the comment:



I did not think it looked right.

We will have to wait for actual photographs.
IIRC it was the INS Viraat undergoing refit which appeared in the sat images.
 

FORBIN

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@Aksha VLS replenishment at sea, more clear :
Originally, one module would consist of five cells and a collapsible crane for assisting with replenishment at sea, but replenishment of large missiles at sea was impractical and dangerous, and modules with the cranes fell out of use.

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aksha

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In October 2001, with much fanfare, India announced the creation of a joint command
in the Andaman and Nicobar island chain, which dominates the western approach to
the Malacca strait. From the perspective of jointness and from what was originally
envisaged by its architects, the Andaman and Nicobar Command (ANC) has turned out
to be a failed experiment. However, this episode sheds light on the Indian military, its
higher defense management and also provides insights about India’s Look East policy
and its military engagements and capabilities in the South China Sea.

India’s model of civil-military relations leaves operational and organizational matters
almost entirely to the military. The ANC was India’s firstjoint command, but the
individual services were opposed to the idea as they feared a loss of power and a
cutback on senior officer billets. They did everything they could to prevent this
experiment from succeeding. This was done mainly by denying service assets to the
ANC. The only major assets it gained in its 13 years of service were an amphibious
landing ship, INS Kesari, and a naval offshore patrol vehicle, INS Saryu, a few fast attack
boats and some Dornier aircraft. Other problems included a bitter inter-service dispute
over land and a failure to agree upon a common military code. The peculiar system of
rotation of the command among the three services resulted in a rapid turnover in the
post of the commander-in-chief, Andaman and Nicobar command (CINCAN), with 12 of
them appointed since 2001, averaging a little over a year in command. To better
appreciate these difficulties, one has to analyze the motivation of individual services.

Due to its maritime imperative the Indian Navy has historically claimed ownership of
the island chain and until 2001 all military units stationed there functioned under a
naval commander. In 2001, in an act of magnanimity, the Indian Navy willingly offered
this post for the joint command "experiment." The leadership at that time believed
that the success of this initiative would lead to otherjoint operational commands. But,
over time, the Navy came to see this decision as a mistake as no more joint commands
were formed. According to reports the navy is currently lobbying the government to
revert this command back to them. While denying assets to the ANC, the Indian navy
has strengthened Eastern Naval Command (ENC), based in Visakhapatnam, which has
emerged as India’s most important naval command. Indeed, the strategic dimensions
of India's Look East policy-in terms of visits and exercises of the Indian Navy in the
South China Sea-are conducted by elements from the ENC instead of the
geographically proximate ANC.

The Indian Air Force was initially enthusiastic about the ANC and went about enlarging
its bases on the islands. After the 2004 tsunami which devastated Car Nicobar air base, leading to the loss of 116 air force personnel and their families, their enthusiasm
waned. The air force has since discarded plans to permanently base aircraft on the
islands and has currently designated Kalaikunda air force station, more than 1000
kilometers away on the Indian mainland, to provide air cover. The impracticality of
this arrangement is seemingly lost on defense planners. The army has little role to
play and few platforms to deploy on the islands. Notably, it has added only a
Territorial Battalion to the ANC while building up an amphibious brigade capability in
Thiruvananthapuram on the mainland.

The Andaman and Nicobar Joint Command therefore has been a “grand failure" in
terms of what was envisaged by its architects. Not only has it failed to usher in more
joint commands, but the experience might be cited by those within the military
community who are opposed to this idea. Among former Commanders in Chief of the
ANC the common refrain was that the experience represented not only a missed
opportunity but an overall “sad story." Significantly, civilians have played no role in
either building up the ANC or pushing for more joint commands. In fact, as noted by a
report of the standing committee on defense, civilians did not even fill up mandated
posts in the ANC, including a diplomatic post, as “no one wanted to go there."

This is not to say that no capabilities have been built up on the islands. In terms of
infrastructure development, there has been some steady progress. A naval air base
was established at Campbell Bay and runway extensions planned for another naval
base at Shibpur. There are plans to build Operational Turn Round (OTR) bases at
Campbell Bay, Dighpur and Kamorta while facilities at Port Blair, including a second
floating dock, are being upgraded. These initiatives, though welcome, do not address
the lack of assets under the ANC. The current CINCAN, Vice Admiral PK Chatterjee,
recently stated that the ANC needs “Command and Control Ships and submarines...we
require an entire fleet."

The failure of the ANC also reflects on the ongoing debate about India’s ties to
broader East Asia. Some analysts argue that ANC will continue to suffer from neglect
unless a considered, and strategically significant, decision is taken to economically
develop the island chain. Currently, only 7% of the land, spread over 570 islands, is
available for revenue purposes as the rest consists of protected forests and water
bodies. There are no international flights to Port Blair, thereby constraining tourism.
Environmental concerns, including protection of indigenous tribes, therefore have
trumped economic development due to which the islands, despite obtaining 30% of
India’s total Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ), depend upon the central government for
its fiscal outlays. One of the big ideas that could transform the region has been
debated for a while-the creation of a transhipment hub at Car Nicobar. If
implemented this can be a strategic game changer, as it could rival the ports of
Singapore and Colombo and give India enormous economic and strategic leverage.
Naturally, such an investment will need to be protected and so ANC will be
strengthened, giving it the capability to dominate the sea lanes of the Indo-Pacific. On
the other hand, some in India oppose such a vision not just on environmental grounds
but also argue that having a low military footprint in the Andaman and Nicobar islands
is diplomatically advantageous so that other countries in Southeast Asia do not feel
threatened. Resolving this debate will offer some clues to the outlines of the Indian
counter-reaction to China’s foray into the Indian Ocean and more assertive stance in
the South China Sea.
 
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