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sheogorath

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What the actual fuckkkk, its like giving pentium 1 motherboards ssds or ddr5 rams forcefully..
India got its su30s in mid 2000's and even they didnt have it..
Whoever is the planner for these things during that era or even now in IAF or their ministry gotta be somewhat high.
At least the Flankers had fairly modern and effective PESA's for the time, but yeah.
 

Gloire_bb

Major
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This is just cope, I bet the hope was tejas would be being made in high enough numbers by now to replace jaguar but that didnt happen so...
Ugh, it wasn't intended *by now*, and Jaguar replacement is in any case Tejas Mk.2.
As light bomber aircraft, DARIN III is quite ok. It will be troublesome for ground crews and risky for pilots towards the end, but capability itself is quite alright.
India got its su30s in mid 2000's and even they didnt have it..
MKI had not too old 2000s radar, which didn't need immediate replacement until about now. Darin III is 2010s upgrade, where AESA brought very material benefits(in a2g moments its advantage over aelta 2032 is huge). Simple as that.
 

Rank Amateur

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Jaguar was pretty mediocre even when first introduced in the 1970s. So underpowered, the joke was that it needed help from the curvature of the Earth to get airborne. 20 years since UK and France got rid of theirs. Keeping them going until 2050(!) in a desperate attempt to maintain squadron numbers just screams "supapowa":

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The above post has spurred me to update the following 2011 CDF post by member cmdjing (which I've quoted before):

"It was during the 80's when the PLAAF had nothing but J-7s and J-8's while the IAF purchased the Mirage-2000 and the Mig-29. For nearly a decade the PLAAF had no answer until the purchase of the first Su-27's. . . . In 20 plus years China has gone from building J-8s to J-20's. India has gone from buying Mirages to buying Rafales. That says a lot about their respective aerospace industries . . . ."

My update: In the nearly 15 years since 2011, China has gone from building J-20s to J-20As and J-20Ss, J-35s and J-35As, and the J-36 and J-XDS next-gen/6th-gen demonstrators/prototypes. India has gone from buying Rafales to buying more Rafales. And Jaguars!
 

mossen

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The UK keep their Jaguars in a museum. India's Jaguars will simply drop out of the sky at random like the MiG-21 "Bison" did. That's what happens when you keep a plane around for too long. Hard to put into words how much of an embarrassment this is for India.

They will have to abandon their stated goal of 42 squadrons at some point. This is just untenable.
 

AlexYe

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They will have to abandon their stated goal of 42 squadrons at some point. This is just untenable.
Right now they are at 29 squadrons which includes the jaguars, they are also having a pilot shortage,
Meanwhile Indian media was saying (after the commercial air line crash) that IAF should let their pilots do temp pilot work for the country's Airlines.
 

Ringsword

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The UK keep their Jaguars in a museum. India's Jaguars will simply drop out of the sky at random like the MiG-21 "Bison" did. That's what happens when you keep a plane around for too long. Hard to put into words how much of an embarrassment this is for India.

They will have to abandon their stated goal of 42 squadrons at some point. This is just untenable.
This "izzat" business-false,fake,brittle honour(rooted in inferiority complex/brahminic high hubris) will be the disaster of india-Don't they know it's better to have "only" 30 squadrons of 5 gen /4 gen ++,then 50 squadrons of obsolete,dangerous-to-fly homemade industrial garbage and antiques??What's wrong with them?
 

AlexYe

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sheogorath

Colonel
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This might not fit here but one of the companies hiring for india's AMCA is doing recruitment these days and this is the ad

Look at the pitiful pay they re offering, 07 years of experience for Senior tech and its just 50k rupee per month,
Thats like starter pay for university freshies that have 0 experience.

If the conversion rate is correct, thats like 500$ a month for the most senior position?. No wonder they'd rather LARP as nazis on Twitter for money or run scam centers...
 

AlexYe

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If the conversion rate is correct, thats like 500$ a month for the most senior position?. No wonder they'd rather LARP as nazis on Twitter for money or run scam centers...
The pay rate is worse than what like service industry/waiter work would make, and yep Senior tech with 07 years,
Normally they be making about $5000+ instead.

And idk if this fits here but its sorta related to May 7th fallout
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NEW DELHI/HONG KONG, Nov 19 (Reuters) - Air India is lobbying the Indian government to convince China to let it use a sensitive military airspace zone in Xinjiang to shorten routes as the financial toll from a ban on Indian carriers flying over Pakistan mounts, a company document shows.
Insane ask
The airline, owned by Tata Group and Singapore Airlines
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, estimated the Pakistan airspace closure's impact on its profit before tax at $455 million annually - a significant amount given its fiscal 2024-25 loss stood at $439 million.
This is just losses from AirIndia not others

But after the Pakistan airspace closure, Air India's Delhi-Washington route was
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in August.
Now other routes are under review, with the direct Mumbai- and Bengaluru to San Francisco routes "becoming unviable" due to an additional three hours of travel time, including a technical stop in Kolkata, the document said.
A flight from San Francisco to Mumbai on Lufthansa via Munich is now only five minutes longer than on Air India.
 

CMP

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The pay rate is worse than what like service industry/waiter work would make, and yep Senior tech with 07 years,
Normally they be making about $5000+ instead.

And idk if this fits here but its sorta related to May 7th fallout
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Insane ask

This is just losses from AirIndia not others
China should not allow Indian access to Chinese airspace. That said, I expect MOFA will bargain away those privileges for "pennies".
 
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