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vincent

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Remember that the J-16 is a second-line fighter-bomber and I expect it will mainly be used as a bomb/missile truck. So it's not worth retrofitting a more advanced radar.
J-16 is very much being used as an air superiority fighter
But look at the J-20 which is the premier air superiority fighter.
It started with a GaN radar some 10 years ago, which is now being replaced with a SiC radar with 3x the power.
GaN on SiC substrate.
 

AndrewS

Brigadier
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J-16 is very much being used as an air superiority fighter

At the moment yes, but it is very much suboptimal as a non-stealthy air superiority fighter.
The preference will always be to use a stealthy 5th gen.

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But look at the situation in 2030, when the first J-16 MLUs are presumably due.
There will be 1000+ 5th gen fighters plus UADFs.
There's simply no need to use the J-16 for air superiority, so there's no pressing need for the J-16 to receive the best radar.
 

Puss in Boots

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Chinese J16 Radar has 2000 TR modules but it's a GaAs AESA Radar so the range is only 200-250km
Why not wait until India installs this so-called advanced radar on its aircraft before boasting about its power? They just can't shake this bad habit of exaggeration; they start bragging before they've even accomplished anything. We are all well aware of the gap between India and China in the field of radar; they shouldn't even try to compare themselves to China in this area!
 

Gloire_bb

Major
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This isn't credible at all, India can't sell it's Su-30MKI's aircraft since Russia has to approve it first. No way Russia lets India export a flanker variant over its own.
Armenia already bought indian weapons before. For them it's a way to pinch Russia, and maybe also pretend for Europe they aren't buying Russian weapons anymore.
Downsides (there's a reason no one buys Indian armament) don't matter for Armenia, if they ever thought about combat capabilities, they wouldn't be buying 40t jets.
Moreover Armenia doesn't have the cash and infrastructure to run such fleet.
They have Su-30SMs.
 

Ajatshatru089

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So the su30 fighter radar will be more powerful than the American E-3 and Israeli EL/W-2085 on board the Indian Netra which are aircrafts dedicated for AWACS role?

1sqm @ 600km, physics has left the chat.
That's why I called Super SU30 as mini AWACS
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And Virupaksha radar is mounted on a movable swash plate of a PESA radar, making it a PESA-AESA hybrid system.
 

valysre

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That's why I called Super SU30 as mini AWACS
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And Virupaksha radar is mounted on a movable swash plate of a PESA radar, making it a PESA-AESA hybrid system.
Hate to be that guy, but can you get back to us after the headline says "Su-30MKI is Equipped with..." instead of "SU-30MKI to Be Equipped with..."?
 

Clango

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Hate to be that guy, but can you get back to us after the headline says "Su-30MKI is Equipped with..." instead of "SU-30MKI to Be Equipped with..."?
Even by their own estimates it won't happen until 2028, by then even Russians would have probably put AESAs on their own flankers, this is not factoring in all the teething issues this thing will inevitably have.
 

Deino

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That's why I called Super SU30 as mini AWACS
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And Virupaksha radar is mounted on a movable swash plate of a PESA radar, making it a PESA-AESA hybrid system.

IDRW ist nothing but a piece of shit! It has a similar low credibility like Bulgarian.BS.com, NationalInterest-Idiots.com and Armyrecognition. So please spare us this nonsense.
 
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