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ACuriousPLAFan

Brigadier
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Would be interesting to know what our overenthusiastic banned Indian friend would say to this?


Somehow they will still think they're more competent and superior than the PLAN lol.

"Saar, only our warships have been through the trials of hellfire and watery depths, that means our warships are absolutely battle-tested saar! The Chinkis are no match for our veteran warships saar!"
 

Sardaukar20

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"Saar, only our warships have been through the trials of hellfire and watery depths, that means our warships are absolutely battle-tested saar! The Chinkis are no match for our veteran warships saar!"
"Saar, our warships never sink! INS Brahmaputra has been damaged by fire but only lying on its side. She not sink saar! Indian ships are all build with Supapowar world class standards saar! Chinkis are jealous, because their ships are lousy and could sink anytime saar! That's why they must build more ships than India. Pakistan and Bangladesh buy Chinki ships and regret alot, because of very lousy quality. Trust me saar! Jai Hind!"
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Sardaukar20

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Would be interesting to know what our overenthusiastic banned Indian friend would say to this?


The Brahmaputra class of ships does have a history. INS Betwa, sister ship to the currently "lying on its side" INS Brahmaputra had also "laid on its side" in a Mumbai naval dock back in 2016, killing 2 sailors.
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INS Betwa after that 2016 incident. A US salvage company refloated that ship, and she has since been restored to active duty. In 2021, a sailor had also allegedly committed suicide by gunshot on that ship.
 
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tygyg1111

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"Saar, our warships never sink! INS Brahmaputra has been damaged by fire but only lying on its side. She not sink saar! Indian ships are all build with Supapowa world class standards saar! Chinkis are jealous, because their ships are lousy and could sink anytime saar! That's why they must build more ships than India. Pakistan and Bangladesh buy Chinki ships and regret alot, because of very lousy quality. Trust me saar! Jai Hind!"
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True, what can beat amphibious warships with stealth sailors?
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Lethe

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I wonder if they are gonna attempt to return the ship back to active duty or just decommission and scrap it. It is a relatively outdated ship, and many of its components are likely to be imported. If they do wanna return this ship to active duty, then how long and how much is it gonna take? Repair or scrap? Which option is more feasible? Considering the pace of Indian shipbuilding and procurement, both options are also slow. Its just that which is gonna be less slow? Hmm... decisions, decisions...

I expect they will scrap it, as there is no shortage of new hulls coming online. As I wrote in my previous post, there will be two Talwar-class frigates delivered from Russia in the next 12 months and a further two units from Goa in the coming years. The fourth and final Project 15B destroyer will be commissioned shortly, and the seven Project 17A Nilgiri-class frigates, all of which have now been launched, will also progressively be delivered over the coming years. In total, the Indian Navy will receive 12 major surface combatants between now and 2030. At least some of the six smaller (~1500 tonne) combatants planned under the Next Generation Missile Vessel program are also likely to be delivered by 2030.

Not included in the above are the Next-Generation Corvette, Project 17B frigate and Project 18 destroyer programs which are all post-2030 prospects. While there is no shortage of criticisms to be levelled at the Indian Navy, the basic throughput is there and is likely to be carried forward.

Out of curiosity, is there perhaps an issue with the keels of the Brahmaputra-class? It seems unusual that two of three built have flipped so easily.

It would not be surprising if the many evolutions of the design lineage (again, see my previous post) have eroded stability and other margins over time. Nonetheless, both of these incidents have clear external inputs beyond any intrinsic propensity to "tip over".
 
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by78

General
While I would need to refer to a link to get those, one of the most important ones is shown right there
in the picture - the goliath crane. Modular construction methods were still very primitive at MDL when
P-15As' hulls were built.

Goliath crane, it sounds familiar. Is this the Goliath crane you were referring to? It looks very strange in this image (taken in 2018), almost as if it was lying on its side like an Indian frigate.

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