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The information regarding the type of drones it will launch is still unspecified. However, the Zorawar tank has been developed based on lessons from the Russia-Ukraine war. This suggests that the Zorawar tank is designed not only to defend itself from drones and neutralize them but also to launch drones to attack enemy tanks.
The little extra tubes on the side are cute. Reminds me of these:
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Any sources that show what kind of ammunition are launched by the tubes?
 

Pataliputra

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We’re just making things up now?
The army wants these tanks equipped with AI, as well as integrated tactical surveillance and loitering munition drones.

Zorawar tank has an active protection system which will protect it from anti-tank guided missiles and projectiles.

the tank has a Multi-Ranging Sensor (MRS) as well as a BEL Remote Weapon Station (RWS) and Safran Paseo optics and two Anti-Tank Guided Missiles (ATGMs) and additional cameras.

The tank will also come with an integrated Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) to increase battlefield visibility.
 

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Already the Jai Hind media is making comparisons between the Zorawar and the Type-15.
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As per Economic Times, the Zorawar tank will be more mobile and more accurate than the Chinese Type 15 tanks deployed on the Ladakh border.
Jai Hind!

So back in 2020, the Indians were saying that the Type-15 will be no match for their own T-72s and T-90s. Apparently they think that the concept of light tanks was ridiculous. So why the need to develop a light tank anyway? But now, India develops its own Zorawar light tank, and they must say that it is already better than the Type-15. So China was right all along with its light tank concept, but off course, India is always somehow better. The Jai Hind cope just cannot stop.

On paper, the Zorawar appears to be a very light and mobile light tank. Nevertheless, the current prototype is running on composite rubber threads. The composite rubber threads are definitely lighter, and probably gives a better ride than conventional metal threads, but I do question its durability in the harsh, high-UV Himalayan environment. Other than that, there are the other add-ons such as ATGMs, APS, armour blocs, and some apparent drone system. All of those bells and whistles is gonna add weight, and we haven't even talked about the ammo capacity for that tank. In addition, it runs on a 750hp Cummins engine, not the most powerful contemporary powerplant for a tank of its class. So the production version of the Zorawar should still be more mobile than a standard Russian MBT, but I doubt that it'll that much superior over its contemporaries.

The tank, though lighter, will have the same firepower as a regular tank.
Rubbish. A 105mm gun is still not a 125mm gun. The Indians were ridiculing the 105mm gun used by the Type-15 back in 2020, so its funny that they can still come up with such nonsense.

That 105mm Cockerill gun turret should give the Zorawar decent firepower for a light tank, but its never comparable to the 125mm main gun on MBTs. And for Jai Hinds to call it more accurate than the Type-15's 105mm gun is just pure Jai Hind speculation. Furthermore, that 105mm gun and almost the whole turret is by Cockerill, so it is technically not "Make in India".

The only credit India could get is that it was able to come up with a brand new light tank prototype in only a couple of years. Still, it is only just a prototype, and practically all crucial components of the tank are imported. This level of indigenization is comparable to Indonesia's own Kaplan MT/Harimau light tank program which happens to also use the same 105mm Cockerill turret. Not impressive for a supposed "Supapowar".
 

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Already the Jai Hind media is making comparisons between the Zorawar and the Type-15.
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Jai Hind!

So back in 2020, the Indians were saying that the Type-15 will be no match for their own T-72s and T-90s. Apparently they think that the concept of light tanks was ridiculous. So why the need to develop a light tank anyway? But now, India develops its own Zorawar light tank, and they must say that it is already better than the Type-15. So China was right all along with its light tank concept, but off course, India is always somehow better. The Jai Hind cope just cannot stop.

On paper, the Zorawar appears to be a very light and mobile light tank. Nevertheless, the current prototype is running on composite rubber threads. The composite rubber threads are definitely lighter, and probably gives a better ride than conventional metal threads, but I do question its durability in the harsh, high-UV Himalayan environment. Other than that, there are the other add-ons such as ATGMs, APS, armour blocs, and some apparent drone system. All of those bells and whistles is gonna add weight, and we haven't even talked about the ammo capacity for that tank. In addition, it runs on a 750hp Cummins engine, not the most powerful contemporary powerplant for a tank of its class. So the production version of the Zorawar should still be more mobile than a standard Russian MBT, but I doubt that it'll that much superior over its contemporaries.


Rubbish. A 105mm gun is still not a 125mm gun. The Indians were ridiculing the 105mm gun used by the Type-15 back in 2020, so its funny that they can still come up with such nonsense.

That 105mm Cockerill gun turret should give the Zorawar decent firepower for a light tank, but its never comparable to the 125mm main gun on MBTs. And for Jai Hinds to call it more accurate than the Type-15's 105mm gun is just pure Jai Hind speculation. Furthermore, that 105mm gun and almost the whole turret is by Cockerill, so it is technically not "Make in India".

The only credit India could get is that it was able to come up with a brand new light tank prototype in only a couple of years. Still, it is only just a prototype, and practically all crucial components of the tank are imported. This level of indigenization is comparable to Indonesia's own Kaplan MT/Harimau light tank program which happens to also use the same 105mm Cockerill turret. Not impressive for a supposed "Supapowar".
In terms of mobility, it's the best tank in the world. With a weight of just 25 tons and a powerful engine, it is exceptionally fast. More than weight, the engine's power is crucial for mobility; even a heavy tank can be agile if it has a strong engine.
However, keeping the weight below 25 tons will not only be difficult but will also make the tank very expensive due to the high cost of composites.
 
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Pataliputra

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Is this function a known function that has been prototyped, or a hypothetical possibility that would be nice to add onto the machine gun? It looks to me that the trigger is fully exposed to a gunner who can pop out of the hatch behind it and is therefore aimed for human use.
If the machine gun is intended to target drones, it cannot be manually operated. AI has been integrated into the tank, and the most natural use of AI would be to target swarm drones approaching the tank. It is impossible for a human to shoot each drone with a machine gun, but an AI-operated machine gun can easily accomplish this.
 

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The development of the Arjun Tank took 40 years, but the Zorawar Tank was completed in just 2 years. This is because the lessons learned during the 40-year development of the Arjun Tank were applied to the Zorawar Tank, meaning India was not starting from scratch as it did with the Arjun. Similarly, while the development of the Tejas MK1 took 40 years, the Tejas MK2 is expected to take only 2-3 years.


Not again this BS ... and let's wait until the Zorawar tank enters service, in which numbers it will and how it works ... and even more to again portray Tejas Mk.2 as an almost done deal is another story to be seen.
 

Deino

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In terms of mobility, it's the best tank in the world. ....

Take this as a very clear warning! Right in your first poss today you were spreading again only Jai Hind propaganda, BS, lies and politics mixed with religion!

Again, you are comparing a system that has just finished testing (allegedly) with data on paper vs a mature reliable one in service!

If this does not stop I'll promise you, the next ban will come coon and it be be a permanent one!
 

Sardaukar20

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In terms of mobility, it's the best tank in the world. With a weight of just 25 tons and a powerful engine, it is exceptionally fast. More than weight, the engine's power is crucial for mobility; even a heavy tank can be agile if it has a strong engine.
However, keeping the weight below 25 tons will not only be difficult but will also make the tank very expensive due to the high cost of composites.
Can't wait to call something Indian "the best in the world" can't you? LOL! It has not even finished development yet.

I doubt that the production version of the Zorawar is still gonna remain at 25 tons. I just think that the Indian Army will demand additional armour and other bells and whistles on that tank. I also think that they will eventually drop the composite rubber threads for conventional metal threads. Simply because any trials in the Himalayas is not gonna be kind to composite rubber threads. So I suspect that the production version is gonna weigh at least 30 tons if not more. If it still uses the same 750hp engine, then its not gonna be the "best in the world" for mobility anymore. There are other light tanks out there with more powerful engines. Besides, mobility is not just about speed, it is about overall agility.
 

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Deal cost submitted by France is estimated at around Rs 56,000 crores (~USD 6.7 billion) for 26 Rafales (22 Rafale M and 4 Rafale D). This may also include the cost of weapons, but this isn't clear as yet.

This is higher than anticipated, given that some of the costs of the IAF's order for 36 Rafales were into infrastructure that both the IAF and IN fleets can share (e.g. simulators, spares depots, etc.)
 
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