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gelgoog

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If India really wants a 28nm fab they can just pay UMC, SMIC, or maybe even TSMC to make one. I do not think India is sanctioned to the point they would not allow them to get that kind of technology. The problem is not exactly how to build a fab, but how to fill it with orders. That is the reason the Russians never bothered building a 300mm fab at 28nm yet. Because they did not even manage to fill all the fabs they did have to capacity. Only after the government gave preferential treatment to Russian made chip designs and they had the 28nm Elbrus2K design did they consider building a fab like that. If India gets the fab what will they be manufacturing in it?
 

ironborn

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A fab factory need non-interrupted power supply and lot of water, constant purified water supply, so is Indian government able to provide all that? I mean Taiwan government has to divert power from residential and other commercial use to keep TSMC's factory going when they ran into power issues.
 

Chandragupt

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What is this seven sisters? This is getting really off topic. BTW are you Bangladeshi or?
Bangladesh was carved out of Pakistan by India
India declared a full fledged war on Pakistan in 1971 annexed East Pakistan (present day Bangladesh) and declared it as an independent country and now Bangladeshi nationalists claim Indian territory as their own what an irony
 

Nobaru

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Lmao, The fantasy called india was created due to our struggle against Invaders. India is a concept bred out of Britishers created on a begging bowl, its not even a nation. In entire history of sub continent they were stepped over by everybody ,Now that fantasy product claims they fought a war in 1971? With what? Dancing & singing weapons? Its like the story of brave Mouse helping the lion, then claiming to be king of jungle o_Oo_O
All hail they Yeti Army
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lot of water, constant purified water supply, so is Indian government able to provide all that?
Ohho they can provide constant "water supply" , not the water you want. You have any idea how many cows there are in india living in AC room? Water supply shouldn't be a problem :cool::cool:
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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Innovation in what areas of subjects and where are these supposed "Innovations" this pretend "I worked in China for 2 years" chap is talking about. Some Indians love to talk shit about China in order to boost up their country which is rather sad. I mean it's great that Indians and India want their country to succeed and I hope that becomes a reality because they need it.
 

weig2000

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What the guy described about China during 2006-08 was largely correct, when the "Shanzhai" phenomenon was at its peak and the term "shanzhai" was being thrown around with abandon. Meanwhile India was hailed as being more innovative with such innovation with Indian characteristics as the $2,500 Tata Nano car, as well as pioneering the white-collar revolution aks software and business processing outsourcing. At the time, a lot of Chinese companies and government agencies sent delegations to India to learn from the success of NASSCOM.

China has since moved on, developing one of the two most dynamic and comprehensive digital ecosystems in the world, and becoming the factory of the world manufacturing everything including most hi-tech products in the world. India, meanwhile, appears to have stuck in the lower-income trap.

It'll be interesting for someone to research and investigate the divergence and uncovering the driving factors behind it. It'll be a great read for many people, from politicians, economists, investors to businessmen. Maybe
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gelgoog

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It is just typical Indian superpower nonsense of trying to jump straight into the leading edge without bothering to learn all the steps necessary to get there in the first place. It fails more often than not.
I also think India is kind of reticent into getting into fabrication in a big way since it would make them more vulnerable to trade sanctions and the like. For all the supposed democracy of India, they run a pretty closed economy, and do it for rather obvious geopolitical reasons. India lacks all sorts of strategic materials in its own subcontinent and energy is a big issue. So making lots of industry with poor energy resources is basically impossible. But it is also thanks to that they are less vulnerable to pressure from the West right now.

For India to develop properly they need to solve their energy problem. They focused on nuclear, but they lack uranium resources themselves, thankfully for them they have good relations with Russia which is probably the world leader in nuclear fuel production. I think they should also have a fast reactor project, like China is doing, but their civilian nuclear sector still looks to be way behind. If necessary they can even license the technology for fast reactors from Russia. This would minimize their uranium requirement. As for oil & gas Iran is a natural partner for India. But the thing is to build pipelines they would have to go through Pakistan. Pakistan's sponsors in the Gulf and handlers in the US never allow those pipelines to be built although it is in the strategic interest of all three countries (Iran, Pakistan, and India).
 
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