How to Grab Taiwan in 7 hours

Cheers for the reply, you have discussed quite a lot about my idea.

"Whether or not they feel they should be joining a "family" remains open to debate. When your "brother" is pointing missiles at you it kind of overrides any common blood in your veins."

China offered a 1 country 2 systems (like HK) to Taiwan. They didn't accept it, what can you do except teaching them some lessons? Well, will any country in the world allow one of its states to have this kind of system?

You mentioned a unification count down. From what I can tell, basically it's telling the world and Taiwan, "We're going to do as we please, you can all STFU."

I like you, you are different from other Americans in your country!


It's indeed admirable that the CCP would (in your scenario) advice the innocent people to move from Taiwan. Except for a few problems. Number one, not everyone is financially or emotionally capable of moving from a country that they feel attachment to. Even if they could get over that, exactly where would they go? I don't see Japan or the U.S. issuing out millions of passports anytime soon. In other words, there WILL unavoidably millions of innocents left on the island, whether or not they want independence or not. If they didn't earlier, they'll probably want it now that no matter what they do they'll die. So I'd say it's counter-productive. (A sticky issue is the problem of aboriginals. They'd probably be like, "What right do you have to tell us what to do, and fire missiles at us? We ARE the original people of Taiwan! WTF?!")

That is to make Taiwan into chaos, I mean mentally. They are pissed anyway while sitting peacefully at home, so why not try a little force?

So, your first point is moot. It's IMPOSSIBLE to have only "combatants" in Taiwan. Obviously this causes problems for the second part of your scenario. Since you're not caring about accuracy, inevitably there will be civilian casualties, possibly horrendous. It would probably only take one "misplaced" MLRS strike in metro Taipei to raise a public outcry.

Haha... sorry mate... perhaps you didn't get what I meant, that was my Chinese way of expressing... what I meant was those rockets don't have to hit important targets like military facilities... just hitting some anti-china politician's offices would be enough, or some not so important targets. I didn't mean to fire rockets like mad to everywhere in Taiwan, what's the point of doing that?

I will explain further next time since I am not free now... anyway, do post your views here, ok? cheers

Choy said:

China offered a 1 country 2 systems (like HK) to Taiwan. They didn't accept it, what can you do except teaching them some lessons? Well, will any country in the world allow one of its states to have this kind of system?

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Yes, I know about the 1 country 2 systems. However, given the negative coverage over how China has backtracked regarding 'promises' regarding Hong Kong's autonomy, it is unlikely Taiwan will be eager to follow suit. Also, from Taiwan's POV it's not a state of China, which is the whole point of this dispute. So even though from China's view it's an internal affair, from Taiwan's view it's external aggression. Just depends on how you slice it.

Choy said:

I like you, you are different from other Americans in your country!

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Hmm. I don't know exactly what this is supposed to mean, but I'll take it as a compliment...

Choy said:

That is to make Taiwan into chaos, I mean mentally. They are pissed anyway while sitting peacefully at home, so why not try a little force?

Haha... sorry mate... perhaps you didn't get what I meant, that was my Chinese way of expressing... what I meant was those rockets don't have to hit important targets like military facilities... just hitting some anti-china politician's offices would be enough, or some not so important targets. I didn't mean to fire rockets like mad to everywhere in Taiwan, what's the point of doing that?

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And exactly how would pissing off the people of Taiwan benefit both countries in the long run? Forceful unification via coercion is not beneficial. Maybe resentment will simmer, but some day it will boil over. At the best you have a puppet government controlling a bunch of people who are angry at being invaded.

And okay. Apparently I misinterpreted your 'rockets idea'. It's still tactically stupid. For one thing, it's not like all 'politician's offices' are marked with a big red x. And not all the politicians are all that hostile towards China, some are quite vocal in advocating unification. However, if they weren't hostile before they WILL be hostile if they survive a rocket strike attempt on their lives.

Basically, there will be collateral damage, a obvious reason being the crowded living conditions of Taipei, where the head of the government is.

And collateral damage is never the best first step to take if your goal is 'make your brother love you'. At best you'll have a dysfunctional family.

Well, to solve the problem of the spies and overtalkative workers, China has 2.6 million soldiers or summit like that amount, with a lot reserves. If a fraction of the active PLA were used to dig the tunnel, then it would eliminate the problem of spies. Also, it would ensure secrecy as china has a very strict military code of conduct.

Overall, i would say this plan is crazy but can be made to work with some adjustments such as, rather than relying on the tunnel to get most of the troops in, some PLA or special forces can get into taiwan via commerical airlines. Also, PLA paratroopers could be dropped in to increase the amount of men sieging taiwan.

Also, if china was to take taiwan, would they be more likely to have a build up of force in taiwan before the attack for sometime.

its definitely not possible to take over taiwan in 7 hours if everyone in taiwan resists...

but since taiwan has never fought any wars in the past few decades, i don't think taiwanese military can maintain their morale and determination after china fires its waves of ballistic missiles...my point is, when taiwan sees hundreds of missiles flying from the sky and people starts dying, i think the majority of people in taiwan would change their mind about independence.

I think the PRC is planning to take Taiwan in 12 hours, assuming the Tiawanese Presidential Election Polls stay open for that amount of time.

Probably unnoticed by many on this forum, but the CCP and KMT have just concluded a two day ecconomic summit on how to strenghten trade and Investment ties between the two countries. Mr Chen was I believe busy with some wargames (How to repulse an Amphibeous assult by China's crack Panda Invasion Squad or somesuch).



Real leaders are talking about resolving real problems. I think a message about missiles being redeployed away from the area is likely in the relatively near future.