Hong-Kong Protests

getready said:

CNA just came out with a series on them too. The parents of this particular family strikes me as a abit dim witted. And reason for moving not so much due to NSL or anything political but rather better housing lol.

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Geez, the relationship sounds so toxic lol

I guess moving into a bigger living area is nice but the family seemed to have a lot of clutter and could of made their space a bit better optimize in hk. Is it really worth moving to a decaying town/country though?

Environmentalists that are paid and funded by property tycoons. No wonder, HK property price is just insanely high.

In ancient China, exile to barbarian lands was one of the strictest punishments for criminals.

getready said:

CNA just came out with a series on them too. The parents of this particular family strikes me as a abit dim witted. And reason for moving not so much due to NSL or anything political but rather better housing lol.

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The quality (actually the lack of it) of housing in Hong Kong is the root cause of a lot of social ills in the city. I remember visiting and staying with an expat friend in Hong Kong around the year 2000. His company paid US$3K for a ~300 sq ft apartment. His wife came and stayed with him for less than 6 months and moved back to their home country. She just could not handle the crowded space for their family of 3 and a maid.

Poor housing is one of the main causes for emigration long before the riot and NSL. The current Covid-19 surge is partly due to the kind of homes the majority of Hong Kong residents live in. An infected person under home isolation would infect everyone in the cramped household.

The government of Hong Kong is not able to solve the housing problem on its own. China needs to step in and force a solution to Hong Kong, like giving a near by island or area bordering Hong Kong for low cost housing.

Rettam Stacf said:

The government of Hong Kong is not able to solve the housing problem on its own. China needs to step in and force a solution to Hong Kong, like giving a near by island or area bordering Hong Kong for low cost housing.

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HK got plenty of land. Most of 新界 aren’t developed.

vincent said:

HK got plenty of land. Most of 新界 aren’t developed.

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Hong Kong is mountainous and not all land are usable like Singapore, which has done a much better job to provide quality housing for her residents. Those few remaining plots of land in New Territory or Lantou Island that still belong to the government are too valuable as a source of revenue and for sustaining the local developers for purpose other than high end residential or commercial usage.

I am not saying Hong Kong absolutely cannot solve her own problem. But economics and local politics got in the way. Just like the recent riot and Covid surge, the central government in Beijing needs to step in to fix the problem.

Rettam Stacf said:

Hong Kong is mountainous and not all land are usable like Singapore, which has done a much better job to provide quality housing for her residents. Those few remaining plots of land in New Territory or Lantou Island that still belong to the government are too valuable as a source of revenue and for sustaining the local developers for purpose other than high end residential or commercial usage.

I am not saying Hong Kong absolutely cannot solve her own problem. But economics and local politics got in the way. Just like the recent riot and Covid surge, the central government in Beijing needs to step in to fix the problem.

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Hong Kong has a ton of flat land that can be used. Farmlands in New territories are enough to build a million apartments. The thing is most of the farmland has been bought up by HK tycoons in pennies during 70s and 80s.

HK government also owned many lands But many of these lands have been designated as parks or natural reserves during 90s to 00s. They even passed a few laws to protect these lands and keep government hand away. Most of these laws were sponsored by environmental groups that were funded by tycoons.

KYli said:

Hong Kong has a ton of flat land that can be used. Farmlands in New territories are enough to build a million apartments. The thing is most of the farmland has been bought up by HK tycoons in pennies during 70s and 80s.

HK government also owned many lands But many of these lands have been designated as parks or natural reserves during 90s to 00s. They even passed a few laws to protect these lands and keep government hand away. Most of these laws were sponsored by environmental groups that were funded by tycoons.

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Just ban these environmental groups, then rezone these lands into residential use, then charge these developers additional money.

KYli said:

Hong Kong has a ton of flat land that can be used. Farmlands in New territories are enough to build a million apartments. The thing is most of the farmland has been bought up by HK tycoons in pennies during 70s and 80s.

HK government also owned many lands But many of these lands have been designated as parks or natural reserves during 90s to 00s. They even passed a few laws to protect these lands and keep government hand away. Most of these laws were sponsored by environmental groups that were funded by tycoons.

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Tycoons can be persuaded to sell off those land at a reasonable price.

Tyler said:

Just ban these environmental groups, then rezone these lands into residential use, then charge these developers additional money.

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If HK government has the gut to do it, then there wouldn't be a housing problem at the moment. In HK, government officials hide behind laws and regulations to do nothing. Many of them probably are friendly with the tycoons.

daifo said:

Tycoons can be persuaded to sell off those land at a reasonable price.

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What're your leverages, HK government doesn't have any. That's why Lantau Tomorrow is so important. By land reclamation, Hong Kong can have as much land as it wants without environmental groups or other interests hinder the development and expansion. HK tycoons would be forced to come to the table to negotiate and not demanding thousands per feet for farmlands. Which is why environmental groups that are funded by tycoons would try to stop Lantau Tomorrow at any cost.