Hong-Kong Protests

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tamsen_ikard

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KYli said:
Self-deluded Hong Kongers can always find ways to justify the West and at the same time demonize China. They are not being called a lost generation for nothing. Hopefully, they would never return back to HK. Many Hong Kongers in Taiwan, Canada, and the UK would be forced to go back China after a few years due to deterioration of living standard.
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Even if they do not go back its fine for China. Cause they will become potential recruits as future Chinese spies or pro-China crowd supporting China. Plenty of ethnic Chinese migrants who hated CCP 20-30 years ago are very much pro China now. Their delusions about the west slowly eroded away, their self-hatred about being ethnic Chinese also slowly faded. Racism they faced was also a big factor in such transformations. Plenty of foreign born second generation ethnic Chinese are also heavily Pro-China due to these reasons.

Look at Malaysian Chinese now, because of all the discriminations they face, they are one of biggest pro-CCP Chinese abroad. I think Hong Kongers who leave now will change their minds in 20-30 years just like how many Tiananmen protest participants became heavily pro-China later on.
 
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tamsen_ikard said:
Even if they do not go back its fine for China. Cause they will become potential recruits as future Chinese spies or pro-China crowd supporting China. Plenty of ethnic Chinese migrants who hated CCP 20-30 years ago are very much pro China now. Their delusions about the west slowly eroded away, their self-hatred about being ethnic Chinese also slowly faded. Racism they faced was also a big factor in such transformations. Plenty of foreign born second generation ethnic Chinese are also heavily Pro-China due to these reasons.

Look at Malaysian Chinese now, because of all the discriminations they face, they are one of biggest pro-CCP Chinese abroad. I think Hong Kongers who leave now will change their minds in 20-30 years just like how many Tiananmen protest participants became heavily pro-China later on.
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It wont take 20 to 30 years. I'm guessing 5-10.

The last batch took that long because China was weak and poor.

Now that PRC is stronger, it creates more racial animus, which these guys will be on the receiving end. And so as much as they hate China, a stronger, wealthier and militarily more capable China will be their only refuge.
 
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Ironic given HK ancestors migrated to HK due to economic opportunity and political stability when China was backwards and unstable.

Now, China is rapidly developing and political stable.... but HK is politically unstable and pre-riots, slowly declining into economic irrelevance, only accelerated economic decline post-riots.

Therefore, it must be a) foreign instigation or influence on radical minority to cause problems, hurting HK economically and China indirectly, or b) the poor education system that worships West and demonizes China. or c) a combination of both.
 
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voyager1

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Phead128 said:
Ironic given HK ancestors migrated to HK due to economic opportunity and political stability when China was backwards and unstable.

Now, China is rapidly developing and political stable.... but HK is politically unstable and pre-riots, slowly declining into economic irrelevance, only accelerated economic decline post-riots.

Therefore, it must be a) foreign instigation or influence on radical minority to cause problems, hurting HK economically and China indirectly, or b) the poor education system that worships West and demonizes China. or c) a combination of both.
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HK has already lost its moment for mainland China. Shenzhen is gearing up to replace it
 
steel21

steel21

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Tyler said:
They need to allow the RMB to be convertible. Now, Hong Kong is still much more open financial market with superior banking system.
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I think with DCEP it is approaching convertibility.

The optimum time would be after the USD denominated asset/equity bubble has burst around 2022-2024, not before.
 
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