Who could have imagined in the 1980's that this 'One Country, Two Systems' formula implemented in a 156 year old British colony full with lapdogs and anglo-symphatizers could backfire this way. CCP has been looking away for a long time. I have never noticed any action from the Ivory Tower in Zhongnanhai with regards to HK until 30 june of this year with the implementation of the national security law. I also follow some HK-people that write for HK-based South China Morning Post on Twitter like Stuart Lau and their symphaties are exclusively with white people and they are perfectly fine to screw over Chinese people manyfold for that.
Hong-Kong Protests
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The parents could also be victims of the brainwashing propaganda as well. So, there must be something wrong with the system. This part I'd say it's the education system, churches, cults, various NGOs. Those should be clean up.
Back to the judicial system, IMO, needs overhauling.. Major overhaul.
I wonder if the current judges are the same as those during the chaos. They made blunder judgement. Looks like they are unfit for the job.
Maybe it’s all just the product of a century of bad parenting and straying from Chinese values?
Maybe not, many overseas Chinese adopt different cultures value, in general it could be said as straying from traditional Chinese values. But that doesn't necessarily make them hate China or everything about China.
With HK, it's a bit different, there's a factor of hatred, misinformation and lies. I would say the brainwashing since young school age that is the most damaging. And it happens with so many generations.
So the source of the brainwashing should be clean up in order to protect the next generation. Proper know ledge should be taught. There should be a system to evaluate what the school teach, the books they use etc.
Anyway, the last year chaos, is kinda rude awakening for most HKers. Bad when it happened, but now seeing the result, i will say it's kinda good. If all the bad sourcs have been removed, i think HK will quickly prosper again.
It was eye opening for me as well, I didn't realize the degree HK youth resented the Chinese identity.
Foreign influenced education is only part of the problem. The bigger problem is Hongkongers are officially been treated as a higher class of Chinese citizens in mainland.
There are numerous special privileges exclusive to Hongkongers. For instances, Hongkongers are allowed purchase real estate in Guangdong without the need to provide tax records nor records of social security payments. Hongkong students require much lower scores for admittance into tier one mainland universities. There are one-sided agreements for Hongkong licensed architects, financial professionals to practice in mainland, but no reciprocity.
From many HKers perspective, they see themselves as better and CCP is groveling for royalty after the return. Unfortunately, this ill-founded notion is currently being reinforced by CCP's own preferential policies.
Thanks for the revelation. Seems like a lot of efforts of naturalizing HKers to China. Maybe the reason if being treated as higher class coming from the old time when HK was more developed than China.
Population imbalance? Naturalization? Lower score of admittance kinda not fair.
Avoiding flood of mainland professionals to Hk?
This is wrongly put arrogance. LOL.
Can't be so sure why the policies come into being. Some part seems like an effort of naturalization, some like effort to prevent flooding of mainland citizen to HK. Some of the policies looks like unfair towards mainland citizen.
This could be high time for CCP to review the policies.
I disagree.
Foreign influenced education is the biggest part of the problem. When majority of the civil servants and elites sent their children at the age of eight to British schools, do you think these kids would be loyal to China and Hong Kong. After a few decades and hundreds of thousands of these youngsters been educated in UK and come back to HK, many of them become lawyers, doctors, accountants, civil servants, politicians, businessmen. What do you think, would happen to the Hong Kong society.
Same thing with the mainland Chinese, during the early days of the pandemic, those British educated kids were chartered back to mainland and given special privileges. Do you think these kids would grow up and have positive views of China.
When the HK media constantly exaggerated some negative news about mainland China and at the same time glorified Westerners every day. When the media blame the mainland Chinese for every problems in HK. How would that affect the thinking of average Hong Kongers. I think many people underestimate the power of the propaganda and media. At the beginning of the protests, many young kids who never been to China and don't have strong political views but in matter of days they become the core of the protests and riots. It is not only superior complex and tribalism that turn these youngsters to become rioters but the Hong Kong society has been infiltrated from top to bottom so that the US and Taiwan could easily incite hatred and violence.
I don't want to minimize the issue of superiority complex of some Hong Kong people or the issue of special privileges. But whatever superiority complex that Hong Kongers have, it isn't the main factor anymore as the rise of China has made sure that Hong Kongers aren't better. No matter how much they want to deny that. As for privileges, all privileges should be eliminated or reciprocal. However, these privileges were not granted to Hong Kongers alone but also to overseas Chinese and Taiwanese. The aim is to attract talents but the issue of fairness hasn't been addressed.
I do think the central government needs to take a hard line to force the Hong Kong government to allow mainland professionals to work in Hong Kong. Many of these medical and lawyer associations are anti-China anyway. So Hong Kong government doesn't have a good reason to delay the process of granting licenses to mainland professionals.
The real estate exceptions for HKers are quite recent and not part of "naturalization". China wants to cool off real estate speculation in recent years so local governments implemented many restricting polices. Making social security payments for a certain period is a part of this policy.
This just further contributes to many hkers' unjustified arrogance since it sent the message that mainlanders' jobs are not worth of protecting as much as hk jobs.
Legally, hkers and mainlanders are both PRC citizens. There shouldn't be any "naturalization". And I agree that certain unfair polices are long overdue for reviews.
Well, after the chaos the real culprit has been unmasked. This is clear now to both HKers and mainland citizen. Both side need time to better integrate to each other. Wrong view from the past should not be let standing in the middle. Make room for better tomorrow.
Regarding the law, policies, wether in central government or HK local gov, should be reviewed. I guess HK laws largely inherited from colonial time. It's time to review those laws. HK gov should open communication with HKers to receive input from them. Central government can then work along HK gov to review what can and what cant be done. That way it will work for both for the better.