Jura The idiot
General
OK so you 24 minutes ago meant people wearing T-shirts of red color to go to HK
(I didn't know if you didn't mean members of some paramilitary organization who dress in red shirts)
Hong-Kong Protests
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(I didn't know if you didn't mean members of some paramilitary organization who dress in red shirts)
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
Yesssss. That may have been unclear. They should be identifiable by something like the thugs are by black shirts, mask and yellow helmets so I thought red t-shirts would be simple to do, nice and patriotic-looking. It could be anything really.
Jura The idiot
General
sorta
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
No, not at all like conscription. That calls for able-bodied men to serve their duty for the military. This is volunteer work. Extra credit. If you're angry at them, go give them what you think they deserve. If you don't want to or don't think you can wield a club, stay home and chill. Watch the news. It is exactly as I described it and not like anything else so let's not rack our brains here trying to find a European equivalent, eh?
Jura The idiot
General
I'll check what's happened while I sleep tonight
Hong Kong protests: Civil Human Rights Front loses appeal against police ban on Sunday march, but members will press on in ‘personal capacity’
Hong Kong protests: Civil Human Rights Front loses appeal against police ban on Sunday march, but members will press on in ‘personal capacity’
- Police tell appeal board that march destination at West Kowloon high-speed rail terminus is a possible target of vandalism and attack
- Group calls result ‘regrettable’, with vice-convenor saying event will still go on with help of pan-democrats
antiterror13
Brigadier
I think in general, this Hong Kong riot/violent is good for China in a way. It lifts up the whole Chinese nationalistic and clearly shows how bias the western media and a few western government is ( read US and UK). Definitely the whole Chinese are now united better than ever.
Hong Kong is only 2.5% of China's GDP ... and only just 5 months of Chinese's economy growth of 6.1% *US$14T
China produce more in 9 days than the whole Hong Kong in 1 year ... just give you a better perspective
Hong Kong is only 2.5% of China's GDP ... and only just 5 months of Chinese's economy growth of 6.1% *US$14T
China produce more in 9 days than the whole Hong Kong in 1 year ... just give you a better perspective
plawolf
Lieutenant General
As hard as it is to stomach watching what is happening in HK right now, in many ways, the rioters are marking Beijing’s case far better than the biased western media would ever allow its message to spread in HK.
The western media can censor and spin all they want, but there is no hiding the kinds of atrocious and disgusting behaviour from ordinary HK people, who witness it with their own eyes and then see how the western MSM edit and sugar coat it on the news.
There are those who are beyond help and hope, but I believe that the silent majority are firmly and increasingly against the rioters and mobsters terrorising its streets.
At some point, people will say enough is enough and demand an end to all this madness.
I think Beijing is waiting on the upcoming elections to get a gauge of how much popular support is against the rioters, and whether HK is worth saving.
Time is on China’s side. If the majority of HKers still show support for the rioters, then Beijing will continue to do nothing, and let them enjoy their ‘freedoms’ as the rioters collectively punish these brainwashed fools.
HK has been thoroughly brainwashed, infiltrated and perverted by hostile western powers, who have made many idiots in the city their winning puppets and cat paws.
China tried to detox them gently and gradually with a 50 year transition period. But since that isn’t good enough, and they want to riot, Beijing is fine with them getting the cold turkey treatment that their rioting is putting the city through.
The aim of the rioters were never about bettering the lot of ordinary people in HK, but to provoke a hard line crack down that would have shocked and disgusted the world into joining Trump’s loosing trade war. So for the rioters leaders and foreign funders and organisers, the aim was to flood the streets of HK with the blood and brains of the idiots moronic enough to fall for their brainwashing, and have it broadcasted live to their world in ultra HD.
By not taking their bait, Beijing has trapped the rioters with their own ridiculous extremist demands and tactics, and their brainwashed foot soldiers are now running out of control as they were all supposed to be dead or in gulags by now per the original plan.
That is why there is a marked contrast in the well organised and executed protests and escalation to violence; compare to the wonton violence now.
The riot organisers did not expect such restraint from Beijing or the HK police, since similar extremist violent provocations and crimes would have been met with massed hails of live rounds in any ‘civilised’ and ‘free’ western city their masters are based in.
Now they cannot control or end the violence they fanned up, and are slowly but surely being consumed by the flames.
The tragedy is that millions of HKers, many of who are loyal patriots, are also suffering in the flames.
But in a way this is also a lesson. Society impacts us all, if the good turn a blind eye to evil forces seeking to undermine and damage society, they have no one to blame but themselves when they reap the bitter harvest their inaction have helped sow.
I find it incredible that good ordinary people did not notice the line of predictors and manipulators infiltrating their schools, churches and media etc. If they do not speak out and make a stand, who is supposed to?
It is no mistake that American soldiers swear to defend their nation against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
For too long HK has turned a blind eye or even openly embraced China’s domestic and foreign enemies alike. Just what did they expect to happen?
The western media can censor and spin all they want, but there is no hiding the kinds of atrocious and disgusting behaviour from ordinary HK people, who witness it with their own eyes and then see how the western MSM edit and sugar coat it on the news.
There are those who are beyond help and hope, but I believe that the silent majority are firmly and increasingly against the rioters and mobsters terrorising its streets.
At some point, people will say enough is enough and demand an end to all this madness.
I think Beijing is waiting on the upcoming elections to get a gauge of how much popular support is against the rioters, and whether HK is worth saving.
Time is on China’s side. If the majority of HKers still show support for the rioters, then Beijing will continue to do nothing, and let them enjoy their ‘freedoms’ as the rioters collectively punish these brainwashed fools.
HK has been thoroughly brainwashed, infiltrated and perverted by hostile western powers, who have made many idiots in the city their winning puppets and cat paws.
China tried to detox them gently and gradually with a 50 year transition period. But since that isn’t good enough, and they want to riot, Beijing is fine with them getting the cold turkey treatment that their rioting is putting the city through.
The aim of the rioters were never about bettering the lot of ordinary people in HK, but to provoke a hard line crack down that would have shocked and disgusted the world into joining Trump’s loosing trade war. So for the rioters leaders and foreign funders and organisers, the aim was to flood the streets of HK with the blood and brains of the idiots moronic enough to fall for their brainwashing, and have it broadcasted live to their world in ultra HD.
By not taking their bait, Beijing has trapped the rioters with their own ridiculous extremist demands and tactics, and their brainwashed foot soldiers are now running out of control as they were all supposed to be dead or in gulags by now per the original plan.
That is why there is a marked contrast in the well organised and executed protests and escalation to violence; compare to the wonton violence now.
The riot organisers did not expect such restraint from Beijing or the HK police, since similar extremist violent provocations and crimes would have been met with massed hails of live rounds in any ‘civilised’ and ‘free’ western city their masters are based in.
Now they cannot control or end the violence they fanned up, and are slowly but surely being consumed by the flames.
The tragedy is that millions of HKers, many of who are loyal patriots, are also suffering in the flames.
But in a way this is also a lesson. Society impacts us all, if the good turn a blind eye to evil forces seeking to undermine and damage society, they have no one to blame but themselves when they reap the bitter harvest their inaction have helped sow.
I find it incredible that good ordinary people did not notice the line of predictors and manipulators infiltrating their schools, churches and media etc. If they do not speak out and make a stand, who is supposed to?
It is no mistake that American soldiers swear to defend their nation against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
For too long HK has turned a blind eye or even openly embraced China’s domestic and foreign enemies alike. Just what did they expect to happen?
Then let the patriots show their patriotism. If a million of them demonstrate, then even the thugs will be intimidated.
Not so. It is indeed a citizen's job to rally; then the government can respond. That is why mainland China has 100,000 demonstrations each year. Not even the government in Beijing knows everything; patriots in Hong Kong must speak for themselves.
But a massive show of support for the central government can deter many riots, and may actually encourage Beijing to act.
(I am already thinking beyond the riots. The secession and water deprivation stuff is for the future.)
If the pro-Beijing demonstrations are huge, with millions of people, then even the rioters will be intimidated.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
You have things ass backwards. The government leads the people; it doesn't wait for cues of encouragement from them to determine how to act. A perfect citizen obeys his government and contributes as he is ordered to do so. He does not act out on his own in a way that may or may not be what his government wants; that is a rogue. This is the power of unity. As I said before, a million patriots all insisting on acting on their own will do nothing for a country but a million model citizens following the orders of a patriotic leader will raise the nation to the top. Without being organized like the rioters are, the pro-Beijing citizens can do nothing and they are expected to do nothing.
You are caught in a self-destructive catch 22: if the government will not act, then the people will not rally and if the people will not rally, then the government needs not act for them. This is a slow death for the bond between government and people. Beijing shouldn't need any encouragement from them if it is a strong government. Beijing will act according to its own plan regardless of whether or not the pro-China Hong Kongers stand out. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem that the plan calls for any aggressive anti-rioting action now.
Last but not least, put yourself in their shoes. Imagine you live in Hong Kong right now. You want to show support for China, but you are physically endangered every time you go out to do so. There are no large organizations to join. What do you do? The only thing to can do is go to work, contribute to society and keep your love for your country close at heart. If you were in Hong Kong, you wouldn't be standing by yourself or with your 5 friends on a street corner with Chinese flags waiting to be mobbed to death every weekend, would you? Does that mean Beijing should give up on you because you did not have the courage to act and thus deprive you of water??