it goes down betting the right horse.
HJ-8 ATGM in Syria
- Thread starter Broccoli
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plawolf
Lieutenant General
What makes you think the rebels are the right horse?
Besides, China does not need to arm the rebels to gain access to Saudi oil. Simply put, why would China break the only principle it adheres to in international relations over oil it can buy freely anyways?
Lets also not forget that China has sizeable investments in Syrian oil fields, which would be worthless if Assad falls or if Beijing decide to arm the rebels and get caught doing it. If oil and money was the only things China cared about, it should be arming Assad.
I think sometimes even my fellow Chinese members are sometimes brainwashed by the relentless western media propaganda onslaught into thinking China only cared about money and resources. China is actually one of the few powers today who actually keep their word, does wwhat it says and is consistent in the long term. Unless there is an official government announcement abandoning its none interference policy, China will never arm rebels in any country against their own government. The only exceptions might be in cases where the government is installed by a foreign power and is in effect a puppet regime to facilitate foreign occupation. But even then, China would need to have been mightily pevered by the foreign invasion to get involved so directly in the first place.
Besides, China does not need to arm the rebels to gain access to Saudi oil. Simply put, why would China break the only principle it adheres to in international relations over oil it can buy freely anyways?
Lets also not forget that China has sizeable investments in Syrian oil fields, which would be worthless if Assad falls or if Beijing decide to arm the rebels and get caught doing it. If oil and money was the only things China cared about, it should be arming Assad.
I think sometimes even my fellow Chinese members are sometimes brainwashed by the relentless western media propaganda onslaught into thinking China only cared about money and resources. China is actually one of the few powers today who actually keep their word, does wwhat it says and is consistent in the long term. Unless there is an official government announcement abandoning its none interference policy, China will never arm rebels in any country against their own government. The only exceptions might be in cases where the government is installed by a foreign power and is in effect a puppet regime to facilitate foreign occupation. But even then, China would need to have been mightily pevered by the foreign invasion to get involved so directly in the first place.
Broccoli
Senior Member
HJ-8 uses optical tracker so only thing what is required is for operator to keep target in middle of sight, and it shouldn't be too hard especially if fired against stationary target. Older times it was harder when you had to aim missile with a joystic or something similar.
Baktar-Shikan/HJ-8 in Bosnia.
[video=youtube;Xs3BiTdSvCY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs3BiTdSvCY[/video]
Equation
Lieutenant General
True, but still it requires a lot of practice, it's not a single shot display for a rough it out training in a hurry. Not only does the shooter has to no all the safety and mechanisms of maintaining that weapon he has to pick and choose a terrain that are advantageous to him to shoot at the target meanwhile giving himself a chance to escape or retreat if anything goes wrong. According to some of the videos it seems almost like they're train soldiers in civilian or mixed camouflage clothing. The way some of them preping the weapons near flawless without hesitation gives me suspect. Foreign agents perhaps?s
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
Good video of Pakistani built Baktar Shikan which was supplied to Bosnian Muslims against Serbs, Pakistan has also fitted a air launched version of the Baktar Shiken missile to its AH-1 Cobra Attack helicopters, with capability of night fire
These missiles were loaded on to a PAF C130 which flew to Turkey and then were transfered on to the Bosnians
I have not seem this footage of the Pakistani ATGM in action in Bosnia, thanks Broccoli!
MwRYum
Major
Having HJ-8 means the rebels can finally hitting something themselves, without leaving all the work to Allah.
If you think it through, the prospect of rebels topple the Syrian government is the worst kind. And for the Israeli, having an armpit of the universe just north of the border is the worst kind of future.
If you think it through, the prospect of rebels topple the Syrian government is the worst kind. And for the Israeli, having an armpit of the universe just north of the border is the worst kind of future.
Pointblank
Senior Member
Well, they have that mess called Lebanon to the north of them for decades, and they managed. With the Golan Heights being one of the more heavily fortified borders of Israel, and with the ability of the Israeli's to strike deep into Syria without any issues, it will bring pause to any new government in Syria to consider if it is worth it to make Israel upset.
MwRYum
Major
The first thing is there won't be much of a government if Assad government folded - the rebels are way too mixed bag to even remotely form an unified government, it's going to be another Libya, where the concept of governance died with Qaddafi.
Then, it's the leading element of the Syrian rebels now, which is a franchised branch of the AQ...as we all come to know, when you compare those cannibals and rapists with Hezbollah, Hezbollah would be the more sane of the two.
The backers of Syrian rebels only aim is to deny Iran an ally in the region...please don't forget the overture in this whole mess is the millennial blood feud between Islamic sects.