H-6 Bomber Aircraft Discussions

GTI

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I doubt this was designed as an anti-ship weapon. Although it could certainly be used as one given the proper electronics and guidance.
It just seems kind of a waste to make such a huge ballistic missile for a mission like that. Unless the target is an aircraft carrier or something like that. I think it is way more likely this is intended as a system to make theater strikes against hardened enemy bases or other high value strategic targets.
I actually agree, I don’t think it’s anti ship in this picture.

However, there are plenty of big anti ship missiles (or missiles with anti ship capability). DF-27, DF-17 DF-26B and DF-21D - the latter 2 of which are purpose built for anti shipping. So that logic/pattern doesn’t really hold.
 

Kalec

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Again after a longer break, a PLAAF H-6N bomber carrying a YJ-21 air-launched ballistic missile. Even if some still claim otherwise, this is NOT a PLAN bomber and therefore I‘m also not sure if the missile is indeed an anti-ship weapon or not just an air-launched BM.

(Image via @水獭军一般编 from Weibo)

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AFAIK, this ALBM should exclusively comes with nuclear warhead, not necessarily mated with real warhead in this particular photo.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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Honestly wondering if (or more likely, when) can we see the DF-17 being adopted for air-launched variant for H-6N use.

With ~13 meters long i.e. longer than DF-17 + H-6N with greater fuel capacity + H-6N being mid-air refueling-capable + DF-ZF HGV warhead + high-altitude launch, tactical and strategic strikes against the 2.5IC and 3IC are definitely viable - Maybe even (north)western CONUS if we're lucky.

And if the upcoming H-20 cannot fit missiles with similar performance parameters into its weapons bay(s) - Continuing the production run of H-6Ns at Xi'an AC - Perhaps until the end of this decade - Certainly doesn't sound like a bad idea...
 
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Blitzo

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Honestly wondering if (or more likely, when) can we see the DF-17 being adopted for air-launched variant for H-6N use.

With ~13 meters long i.e. longer than DF-17 + H-6N with greater fuel capacity + H-6N being mid-air refueling-capable + DF-ZF HGV warhead + high-altitude launch, tactical and strategic strikes against the 2.5IC and 3IC are definitely viable - Maybe even (north)western CONUS if we're lucky.

And if the upcoming H-20 cannot fit missiles with similar performance parameters into its weapons bay(s) - Continuing the production run of H-6Ns at Xi'an AC - Perhaps until the end of this decade - Certainly doesn't sound like a bad idea...

We may have already seen H-6N with a payload that may have a DF-17 style final stage/RV, some years ago

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Jason_

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Again after a longer break, a PLAAF H-6N bomber carrying a YJ-21 air-launched ballistic missile. Even if some still claim otherwise, this is NOT a PLAN bomber and therefore I‘m also not sure if the missile is indeed an anti-ship weapon or not just an air-launched BM.

(Image via @水獭军一般编 from Weibo)

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Shilao & co confirmed that the ALBM carried by the H-6N is an exclusively nuclear armed ICBM. It was developed as a stopgap to quickly reestablish the strategic deterrent role for the PLAAF (a role it has previously lost when H-6 dropped nuclear gravity bombs were retired from service).
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Shilao & co confirmed that the ALBM carried by the H-6N is an exclusively nuclear armed ICBM. It was developed as a stopgap to quickly reestablish the strategic deterrent role for the PLAAF (a role it has previously lost when H-6 dropped nuclear gravity bombs were retired from service).
If it has DF-26 range + the given boost from air launch, this means H-6 on ferry range can hit a huge swath of NA when flying over Russian airspace.

This is why the Sino-Russian relationship is so important. With a hostile Russia, lots of assets lose a ton of power. We all know who would love to sabotage this relationship.
 

sunnymaxi

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This is why the Sino-Russian relationship is so important. With a hostile Russia, lots of assets lose a ton of power. We all know who would love to sabotage this relationship.
fortunately that ship has sailed.. Russia is been integrating with Chinese supply chain and financial system.. basically a new and totally unexplored door has been opened for China.

i would love to see direct Chinese access in Arctic in exchange what Russian demand .. you know what i mean.
 

Kalec

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If it has DF-26 range + the given boost from air launch, this means H-6 on ferry range can hit a huge swath of NA when flying over Russian airspace.

This is why the Sino-Russian relationship is so important. With a hostile Russia, lots of assets lose a ton of power. We all know who would love to sabotage this relationship.
Few reason on why this ALBM should comes with exclusively nuclear warhead:

1. H-6N is sophisticated protected by SAM unit, which makes it very rare on risk calculation.

2. This missile is <9,500kg, ~13m in length, 2 stages. it won't carry more than 500kg on its warhead.

3. The second stage looks almost equally long compared to the first stage, indicating they are optimizing the missile for range.

4. It is definitely NOT called as YJ-21. Either it comes with name like DF-XX or some new initial.

More reading here about ALBM program:

Also the estimated range is around 5,000km - 7,000km if launched from a 900km/h H-6 at an altitude of 10,000km.

The only way to reach CONUS or Hawaii is to launch from Kamchatka, otherwise Alaska only.

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ACuriousPLAFan

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Also the estimated range is around 5,000km - 7,000km if launched from a 900km/h H-6 at an altitude of 10,000km.

You mean 10000 meters?

The only way to reach CONUS or Hawaii is to launch from Kamchatka, otherwise Alaska only.

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Certainly achievable, especially with YY-20 support over Dongbei and/or the Russian Far East.

In the meantime, keep pushing the launch area further northeastwards and closer to the Bering Strait would expand the reach all the way till Southern California and the Great Lakes.

Which website did you use for the above illustration?
 
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