H-20 bomber (with H-X, JH-XX)

Syrida2887

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It's basically cuts since August from Guancha Trio programs like Chahuahui 察话会, weekly military review 一周军评 and various weibo posting from Ayi, Orca and etc. I will bet most of these (if not all) individual pieces had been discussed on this thread somewhere already. But this is a really nice compilation that gathers them together.

Various hints about timing, strategy/doctrine, range (CONUS or not CONUS), and classification.
You know, these well-informed people usually know the relevant news 10-20 days in advance, but they usually use various vague descriptions and hints to keep people's appetite, just like last December.。
 

leonzzzz

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they usually use various vague descriptions and hints to keep people's appetite
I personally don't think this is ideal (nothing really is). It is taking considerable portion of effort from this forum just to dissect/analyze what they say, knowing that something they say were either intentially misleading or vague riddles. (especially in the case of Ayi, he is a little out there sometimes)

However I still think this is better transparency than before, and as a matter of fact they are probably the semi-official spokesperson of PLA development, knowingly allowed by secrecy officers.

It's still better than Trump's unhinged illogical spewing nonsense like the 2 engine F35 or "let's go back to steam CATs", or just the state of US MIC in general.
 

mack8

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Let's see! Ayi doesn't agree with you, it's interesting who will emerge more informed:)
Leaked docs clearly show Izd.810 is supposed to carried by PAK-DA, so there is that for starters. Another interesting parallel is that both programs seem to have been delayed, i recall when claims were made in various western magazine that the H-20 will fly by 2020. In the case of H-20 the delay being apparently redesign/rethinking, while PAK-DA's might had to do with priorities or just the shift to the right that seem to happen with most modern programs.

At any rate, if H-20 flies as rumoured by the end of this year and PAK-DA follows not far behind, say sometime next year, that would be so much schadenfreude to be had in addition to nerds like us having the airgasms of our lives. As the saying goes, let's see who has the last laugh.
 

mack8

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This, while pertaining to USAF musings, i think aligns reasonably well to my argument for an unmanned, supersonic, LO, regional bomber kind of airframe as an AAM truck to work with the H-20 along others. Yes, the americans are talking about subsonic, but i see no reason why China should not one-up them. Besides, such a supersonic, supercruising airframe would work wonderfully with the supercruising J-36/J-50.

Of course, as it is now GJ-X could serve as a missileer as well, but that would merely equal potential US capabilities in this regard. Like with the UADFs, China should look to outmatch the US whenever possible, in order to compensate for inferiority in other categories.

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PS: Not sure if this is more fitting for the UCAV thread, though as everything is interconnected these days it might pertain to both.
 
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