H-20 bomber (with H-X, JH-XX)

Deino

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Why do you say that?


Since it is a reasonable estimation! The FAK-FA is delayed and entered service at best in homeopathic doses, development of the PAK-DA itself has been delayed several times and do you really think Russia will have enough money to found this monster project after the war?

Again, my guess is it will never materialise.
 

Philister

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PAK-DA is under development but IMO most unlikely to ever materialise

Quiet the opposite, this bomber, like SSBNs , would be top priorities of the Russian military, even during its hardest time, strategic projects never stopped or get canceled

What about J/H-XX, the rumored supersonic and stealthy medium bomber? And the figure doesn't look like the Su-57 at all.
This rumored project exists, and been confirmed to be under development in SAC
 

Philister

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Since it is a reasonable estimation! The FAK-FA is delayed and entered service at best in homeopathic doses, development of the PAK-DA itself has been delayed several times and do you really think Russia will have enough money to found this monster project after the war?

Again, my guess is it will never materialise.
Again, I don’t think this war and all sanctions would hurt Russia this bad, goods they exports, are “hard commodities ”, everybody needs them, through swift or not , oil and grain prices are rocketing right now
 

Hyper

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Again, I don’t think this war and all sanctions would hurt Russia this bad, goods they exports, are “hard commodities ”, everybody needs them, through swift or not , oil and grain prices are rocketing right now
What about imports. They have to import machinery from outside. The top machines are not Chinese but Japanese and German . For water jet machines the Swedes and the Americans are best. Oil prices will drop if the Arabs increase production.
 

56860

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What about imports. They have to import machinery from outside. The top machines are not Chinese but Japanese and German . For water jet machines the Swedes and the Americans are best. Oil prices will drop if the Arabs increase production.
What do you mean by machines? Isn't Russia more than capable of making its own?
 

Hyper

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What do you mean by machines? Isn't Russia more than capable of making its own?
I mean cutting edge cnc machines. Lol no Russia can not make them .The Japanese and the Europeans are much ahead of the rest of the world. The Russians have fallen for a bait and have made a mistake they will pay for dearly. There was no chance that Europe would have previously allowed Ukraine to join the EU or NATO. They would especially France ( otherwise Le Penn will come to power) and Germany would have vetoed such a decision.
 

56860

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I mean cutting edge cnc machines. Lol no Russia can not make them .The Japanese and the Europeans are much ahead of the rest of the world. The Russians have fallen for a bait and have made a mistake they will pay for dearly. There was no chance that Europe would have previously allowed Ukraine to join the EU or NATO. They would especially France ( otherwise Le Penn will come to power) and Germany would have vetoed such a decision.
How in the world is Russia able to make things like jet engines but not CNC machines? Anyway they can always import CNC machines from Chinese companies and reverse engineer, won't be as high quality but it's not the end.
 
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