H-20 bomber (with H-X, JH-XX)

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
I wonder how many China plans and what the cost is going to be for each

B2 cost is so high because they divide the R&D cost only over 21 units

If they built more it would bring down the cost considerably just like B21 raider

Either way H-20 is going to be HUGH news
 

Bhurki

Junior Member
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Wow

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Not so sure about the winglets...
Especially on a flying wing design...
They'll probably not increase efficiency by any more than 2% (almost sure) while compromising stealth in a disastrous way..

Or maybe is it because they cant figure out a way to keep check on unstable flight dynamics of flying wing design ( case with yb 49 , should be possible with computer aided control)
 
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asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Not so sure about the winglets...
Especially on a flying wing design...
They'll probably not increase efficiency by any more than 2% (almost sure) while compromising stealth in a disastrous way..

Or maybe is it because they cant figure out a way to keep check on unstable flight dynamics of flying wing design ( case with yb 49 , should be possible with computer aided control)

Yeah its a bunch of school boys designing it ? right ok
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Strictly speaking, the fighters will be able to supercruise away from AEW&C cover. But is it wise to be away from AEW&C cover when counterstealth is proliferating like crazy?
That is the reason why fifth gens are not just stealthed but loaded up with advances radar and networking. It's also why you have work being done to integrate more powerful radars into drones. Because no matter what kind of AWACS or Tanker you have transport, cargo bird or airliner hulls are huge radar targets visible from a long way.
The radar concept in fifth gens is to try and move some of that ARE ability into the fighters so inessence the fighter wing is its own AWACS. This can then be augmented by secondary radars in drones.
If supercruising allows you to knock out counter stealth assets before they can hook together a response, then yes?
Bingo.
The counter stealth technology still has limits of range. I E a counter stealth radar can see a stealth farther out but not at full range. So where a conventional radar might see a conventional fight out to say 1000miles. It sees a stealth at only a dozen. A antistealth might see a conventional fighter again at a 1000miles but a stealth at a hundred.
So the stealth counters by using weapons like antiradiation missiles to nail the antistealth system.
The B21, for example is projected to cost around $550 mil .. And around a 100 are to be buiil
100 is the planned minimum asked for by the USAF. Congress can still decide to chop that up or on the other side keep building them up to hundreds.
 

Hyperwarp

Captain
Unless it's been sanctioned by the government or manufacturer, it's pointless to post fan boy CG art of what they wish their favorite aircraft would look like.

The person who created those CG is using this patch as a base and filling the gaps with their imagination. Now, what does that patch actually depict? Could it be a UCAV?
 

Deino

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The person who created those CG is using this patch as a base and filling the gaps with their imagination. Now, what does that patch actually depict? Could it be a UCAV?

I don't think so, since if I remember correctly this fan-art CG is already several years old but since it is so much unrealistic, I never cared much about it.

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gelgoog

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I wonder how many China plans and what the cost is going to be for each

B2 cost is so high because they divide the R&D cost only over 21 units

If they built more it would bring down the cost considerably just like B21 raider

Either way H-20 is going to be HUGH news

If the number of H-6 bombers built provides any indication I suspect at least 80-120 units. That is if the design proves to be capable.
I was personally rather surprised at Xian's build rates for both the Y-20 and the H-6K so I wouldn't expect this to be a boutique design like the B2.

Also, consider that China also uses the H-6 as an air refueling platform. If they follow this trend with the H-20 the number of units built might be much higher than that. How would you refuel the J-20s for a strike package aimed at the second island chain for example?
 
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