bladerunner
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Global Powers Economic and Military influence throughout History
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solarz
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Re: US media claimed: Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao critized the US
So... your idea of pulling Africa out of poverty and chaos is to... wait until they produce good leaders? Seriously?
China isn't in Africa for charity either, they're there to do business. Economic development is what will pull people out of poverty, not charity.
So... your idea of pulling Africa out of poverty and chaos is to... wait until they produce good leaders? Seriously?
China isn't in Africa for charity either, they're there to do business. Economic development is what will pull people out of poverty, not charity.
bladerunner
Banned Idiot
Re: US media claimed: Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao critized the US
No Im not suggesting they pull out, merely thinking of an ideal situation, where China wont get branded as just another neo colonialist.
@Schumacher
In response to your posted article on handouts to africa.
The writer seems to have forgotten Zimbabwe: where prior to Mugabe it was agriculturally self sustaining, and more than capable of supplying excess to neigbouring countries.
No Im not suggesting they pull out, merely thinking of an ideal situation, where China wont get branded as just another neo colonialist.
@Schumacher
In response to your posted article on handouts to africa.
The writer seems to have forgotten Zimbabwe: where prior to Mugabe it was agriculturally self sustaining, and more than capable of supplying excess to neigbouring countries.
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solarz
Brigadier
Re: US media claimed: Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao critized the US
Actually, what you suggested, China had been doing for decades prior to 1980s. Didn't help Africa any, and certainly didn't help China, at least not economically.
Like I said, China is in Africa to do business, not give charity.
Actually, what you suggested, China had been doing for decades prior to 1980s. Didn't help Africa any, and certainly didn't help China, at least not economically.
Like I said, China is in Africa to do business, not give charity.
Schumacher
Senior Member
Re: US media claimed: Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao critized the US
It's mainly just western interest groups branding China as neo-colonialist so you need not worry too much. It basically means China is making good progress in Africa competing with Western interests there. More competition can only be good for Africa.
The writer is fair. She didn't let African leaders get away scott-free, just highlighting the major role of the west in the major problems. Mugabe is no genius but western sanctions play much if not bigger role in Zimbabwe's devastation, and we haven't even gone into the root cause of Zimbabwe's problem left over from colonial days.
It's mainly just western interest groups branding China as neo-colonialist so you need not worry too much. It basically means China is making good progress in Africa competing with Western interests there. More competition can only be good for Africa.
The writer is fair. She didn't let African leaders get away scott-free, just highlighting the major role of the west in the major problems. Mugabe is no genius but western sanctions play much if not bigger role in Zimbabwe's devastation, and we haven't even gone into the root cause of Zimbabwe's problem left over from colonial days.
bladerunner
Banned Idiot
It seems Africa is like the meat in the sandwich. Caught between the destructive agriculture polices of the West on one side and China's manufacturing ability on the other.
From George Ayittey the Economist Debates Link on Post 39
........"Further, China's engagement has devastated local industries in Lesotho, Nigeria and Zambia. In Nigeria, the influx of Chinese products has destroyed Kano's manufacturing sector. In 1982, 500 factories churned out textile products in Kano, but fewer than 100 remain operational today, most at far less than full capacity. In South Africa, the textile union says some 100,000 jobs have been lost as Chinese synthetic fabrics replace cotton prints in street markets across Africa."
From George Ayittey the Economist Debates Link on Post 39
........"Further, China's engagement has devastated local industries in Lesotho, Nigeria and Zambia. In Nigeria, the influx of Chinese products has destroyed Kano's manufacturing sector. In 1982, 500 factories churned out textile products in Kano, but fewer than 100 remain operational today, most at far less than full capacity. In South Africa, the textile union says some 100,000 jobs have been lost as Chinese synthetic fabrics replace cotton prints in street markets across Africa."