Future PLAN naval and carrier operations

Iron Man

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Most of the current lineup were built with visibility in mind, this isn’t the 1970s where stealth is an unknown concept. The burden of proof is on saying the LRASM is stealthy enough to matter. Same goes for ECM.

IIRC China has touted coordination between missiles in export expos, this is hardly cutting edge either.
So this is just your opinion. You don't actually have any sources to back you up that also make these claims. Do you even have any visual evidence of stealth in any of the missiles?
 
... That is a dicey proposition given the B-1B has a huge radar signature and Fighter Cap is expected to operate 2000km from a Chinese carrier or the numerous Chinese airbases.

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Andy you sure of two-thousand km CAP radius around a Chinese carrier?

if so, please describe how you'd make this happen
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Most of the current lineup were built with visibility in mind, this isn’t the 1970s where stealth is an unknown concept. The burden of proof is on saying the LRASM is stealthy enough to matter. Same goes for ECM.

IIRC China has touted coordination between missiles in export expos, this is hardly cutting edge either.
well even the Soviet Shipwrecks had been able to swarm: the 4th paragraph of
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Either only one yard is building carriers, or that two years are building carriers but in a staggered fashion, for the purposes of being conservative for the discussion.
would you please address the manning issue (or non-issue) of the future PLAN carriers you envisioned, thanks

(I could imagine something like thirty thousand specialized crew for what you described Today at 2:20 PM)
 
So this is just your opinion. You don't actually have any sources to back you up that also make these claims. Do you even have any visual evidence of stealth in any of the missiles?
stealthy or not, a hail missiles could be sent by China against an Opfor in the SCS, as in "saturation attack"
 

Blitzo

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would you please address the manning issue (or non-issue) of the future PLAN carriers you envisioned, thanks

(I could imagine something like thirty thousand specialized crew for what you described Today at 2:20 PM)

Well it goes without saying that expansion of naval personnel and expansion of competency and upskilling will occur for the navy overall, not only for the purposes of building carrier battle groups but also for an expanding SSN fleet, SSBN fleet, etc.
 

weig2000

Captain
would you please address the manning issue (or non-issue) of the future PLAN carriers you envisioned, thanks

(I could imagine something like thirty thousand specialized crew for what you described Today at 2:20 PM)

Personnel training capacity is not just a matter of time, but also of # carriers deployed/available. 001 can train personnel for 002, 001 and 002 can train for 003 and beyond, 001, 002, 003 for 004 and beyond, and so on. It will be an accelerated pace compared with when PLAN only has 001. The recruiting and training pipeline have all been carefully planned and resources available, this being China.

One can question anything and everything about China with your belief system (or wish), but we can always look at the track records objectively.
 

AndrewS

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Andy you sure of two-thousand km CAP radius around a Chinese carrier?

if so, please describe how you'd make this happen
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2000km is based on the CSBA study on proposed US aircraft carrier operations 2040.

The link is earlier in the thread.
 

Brumby

Major
2000km is based on the CSBA study on proposed US aircraft carrier operations 2040.

The link is earlier in the thread.

Are you defending the USN's ability to conduct a 2000 km perimeter CAP or are you suggesting that by 2040 the PLAN CVG would be contracted off to the USN to operate?

If you wish to taken seriously please provide the contents description that support the notion that the USN can conduct a 2000 km perimeter CAP and even if that is true how would that equally apply to the PLAN? Mentioning a link is frankly not good enough.
 

Brumby

Major
Stealth missiles can be rather easily defeated from the top such as EAW or satellite,

I know where you are going with this but before responding to your comments I would like to give you an opportunity to actually substantiate your arguments. They are highly subjective and conditional to a string of variables such orbital patterns, coverage, sensor capabilities, transmission bandwidth, on board processing capabilities, data filtering and fusion capacity et al. The same comment apply for AEW and they are far from easy.
 
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