Funny Stuff Thread.... to loosen your day

[LawLeadsToPeace]

These are mostly true. China is very hard to visit even for overseas Chinese. It is not about just Americans. A solid mistake by China in my opinion. The US has assassinated China's reputation since 2017. Promoting international tourism was a no brainer measure against this in addition to its obvious benefits for China's economy. China did the opposite.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1680394769896275968

First and foremost, that may not be the best source considering the person claims to be against China's totalitarian repression.

Secondly, I disagree. China's reputation was trashed since 1949. Western Europeans and Americans have mental panic attacks when they hear the word, "communism". In addition, prior to 2017, China's reputation was further c**ped upon. Did you forget about Liu Xiaobo, Tibetan independence, Chinese sweatshops with child labourers, Dalai Lama, FLG organ harvesting, "Made in China" junk, "Chinese copy and steal", and etc? These labels were ubiquitious. A person who identifies as mainland Chinese were constantly made fun of because of that. Why do you think there are still so many anti-China mainlanders just like the one you cited? Finally, just because you see a bunch of foreign tourists in China doesn't mean they like you. Look at Serpentza and ADVChina. Those guys were in China for a while. Yet they repeatedly piss on China as a whole. To be frank and extremely sharp, the thought of using tourism to boost one's image is prostitute-thinking. China's international reputation was never recoverable to begin with for the superior powers deemed the nation to be undesirable.

I'm personally ok with China being a strict with tourism and foreign entries. It forced China to focus on more complex industries to boost its growth and deceloping domestic talent. Tourism just offers the easy way out and stunts a nation's overall development. Japan is a really good example of this. They have become so dependent on tourism that they changed their culture and behavior to make themselves more tourist-friendly.

 

[A potato]

First and foremost, that may not be the best source considering the person claims to be against China's totalitarian repression.

Secondly, I disagree. China's reputation was trashed since 1949. Western Europeans and Americans have mental panic attacks when they hear the word, "communism". In addition, prior to 2017, China's reputation was further c**ped upon. Did you forget about Liu Xiaobo, Tibetan independence, Chinese sweatshops with child labourers, Dalai Lama, FLG organ harvesting, "Made in China" junk, "Chinese copy and steal", and etc? These labels were ubiquitious. A person who identifies as mainland Chinese were constantly made fun of because of that. Why do you think there are still so many anti-China mainlanders just like the one you cited? Finally, just because you see a bunch of foreign tourists in China doesn't mean they like you. Look at Serpentza and ADVChina. Those guys were in China for a while. Yet they repeatedly piss on China as a whole. To be frank and extremely sharp, the thought of using tourism to boost one's image is prostitute-thinking. China's international reputation was never recoverable to begin with for the superior powers deemed the nation to be undesirable.

Wasn't China shitted on even like before 1949 during the ROC? Like I am pretty sure that the US and the west hated China back then it's just that the KMT is cucked and constantly sucks the dick of the west, ussr and japan.

 

[LawLeadsToPeace]

Wasn't China shitted on even like before 1949 during the ROC? Like I am pretty sure that the US and the west hated China back then it's just that the KMT is cucked and constantly sucks the dick of the west, ussr and japan.

Nah. The ROC was the good Chinese for they were anti-Communists that allowed Western businesses to make money in China without any restrictions and elevated even the most garbage foreigner above the average Chinese.

 

[SanWenYu]

Wasn't China shitted on even like before 1949 during the ROC? Like I am pretty sure that the US and the west hated China back then it's just that the KMT is cucked and constantly sucks the dick of the west, ussr and japan.

Yep the 100 year of humiliation started in 1842.

 

[A potato]

Nah. The ROC was the good Chinese for they were anti-Communists that allowed Western businesses to make money in China without any restrictions and elevated even the most garbage foreigner above the average Chinese.

But the west supported japan until Pearl Harbor.

 

[siegecrossbow]

The mundane answer is that written Japanese literally evolved from Classical Chinese. Even as recent as Meiji era, formal Japanese writing is written in a form that can be mechanically translated into something resembling Classical Chinese. This no longer quite hold with modern written Japanese, but that explains why it's even possible for people to do this in the first place.

The pseudo-Chinese form of Japanese is not quite "just strip out kana and call it a day". The writer basically had to go out of their way to pick sino-xenic vocabulary, and render a lot of stuff that would be normally be written in kana into kanji. The translation required (which is more or less the inverse of the process that turns Classical Chinese into something parseable in Japanese) gives the impression that modern written Japanese resembles Classical Chinese when it really doesn't, at least not without some serious eye-squinting.

Not too bad for something that originally came from a certain gay p*rn's appreciation community, I suppose. Incidentally, this is why the corpus of Pseudo-Chinese contains a suspicious amount of "射爆" and "谢谢茄子".

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As for local dialect looking like Classical Chinese when written out, I guess that just comes down to natural evolution of language, where some dialects are more conservative than others. Of course, this invite the sort of w*nkfest such as "hurr durr my dialect retains more sounds and features from þe olde Chinese, therefore I am real Chinese, and you are barbarian and not real Chinese huehuehue" from a certain group of people.

Kanji use has been reduced in modern times. Many Japanese today can’t understand WW2 era letters because Kanji was a lot more commonly used even 70 years ago.

 

[TheFoozyOne]

First and foremost, that may not be the best source considering the person claims to be against China's totalitarian repression.

Secondly, I disagree. China's reputation was trashed since 1949. Western Europeans and Americans have mental panic attacks when they hear the word, "communism". In addition, prior to 2017, China's reputation was further c**ped upon. Did you forget about Liu Xiaobo, Tibetan independence, Chinese sweatshops with child labourers, Dalai Lama, FLG organ harvesting, "Made in China" junk, "Chinese copy and steal", and etc? These labels were ubiquitious. A person who identifies as mainland Chinese were constantly made fun of because of that. Why do you think there are still so many anti-China mainlanders just like the one you cited? Finally, just because you see a bunch of foreign tourists in China doesn't mean they like you. Look at Serpentza and ADVChina. Those guys were in China for a while. Yet they repeatedly piss on China as a whole. To be frank and extremely sharp, the thought of using tourism to boost one's image is prostitute-thinking. China's international reputation was never recoverable to begin with for the superior powers deemed the nation to be undesirable.

I'm personally ok with China being a strict with tourism and foreign entries. It forced China to focus on more complex industries to boost its growth and deceloping domestic talent. Tourism just offers the easy way out and stunts a nation's overall development. Japan is a really good example of this. They have become so dependent on tourism that they changed their culture and behavior to make themselves more tourist-friendly.

Exactly, that person’s list of reasons is super focused on Chinese protectionism and censorship, aka “why can’t Western goods and way of life be allowed in China and dominate?” Of course it hints the blame is on Chinese government’s policies, instead of years and years of Western propaganda against China.

Many of his reasons also apply to Chinese tourists visiting abroad (no Chinese signs, no alipay everywhere) or to Western tourists visiting other countries (no english signs in many countries too and no credit card payment everywhere either or even internet access). Meh, if you want to visit a country, you can use cash and a translate app and plan and organize your trip ahead of time and post your pictures afterwards, the reasons he listed never stopped Western people from visiting Cuba or Mexico or other similar countries…

 

[azn_cyniq]

These are mostly true. China is very hard to visit even for overseas Chinese. It is not about just Americans. A solid mistake by China in my opinion. The US has assassinated China's reputation since 2017. Promoting international tourism was a no brainer measure against this in addition to its obvious benefits for China's economy. China did the opposite.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1680394769896275968

Perhaps this will change in the coming years. The Chinese government probably didn't want too many foreign tourists, particularly from irresponsible western countries, during the height of the pandemic. Many outbreaks were started by tourists from western countries. Now that the pandemic is under control, they should become more welcoming to foreigners.

 

[fatzergling]

These are mostly true. China is very hard to visit even for overseas Chinese. It is not about just Americans. A solid mistake by China in my opinion. The US has assassinated China's reputation since 2017. Promoting international tourism was a no brainer measure against this in addition to its obvious benefits for China's economy. China did the opposite.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1680394769896275968

Most of the difficulty comes in China developing new systems that foreigners are not integrated with. Lots of services require foreigners to carry their passports around 24/7. Of course, if you can't read or understand Chinese, you won't be able to go anywhere that isn't Beijing or Shanghai.
Another barrier would be the flight tickets. Right now there's only one flight from SFO to Pudong, and it costs over $4000 for economy! Only rich tech workers would be able to afford that!
None of this are "hard" barriers to visit China, but they do present an inconvenience as of right now. Plenty of white tourists visiting Tibet despite the massive amount of hurdles (permits and cost) associated with visiting Tibet.

 

[LawLeadsToPeace]

But the west supported japan until Pearl Harbor.

Not really. The US sanctioned Japan when Japan invaded the rest of China via an oil embargo because there were American business interests over there. That was the reason why Japan launched the Pearl Harbor attack.The British did work with the Japanese for a while, and the Germans had an alliance with the ROC prior to the Japanese invasion.