Funny Stuff Thread.... to loosen your day

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manqiangrexue

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I know your stance is incorrigible, but let me clarify a couple things.
What you think you know is wrong. Show me evidence and I will change if it is appropriate.
1. No one is questioning whether he is patriotic
Solarz was, saying that he accomplished many selfish things and that makes him a genius. If what he did was an accomplishment from his perspective, then he must be unpatriotic because he did only bad things to America.
, the question is whether he is puts himself first above all (@solarz original point)
No, that's not the question at all; I never said he's selfless. The question is whether or not he succeeded or accomplished anything. To say yes is to say that he set out to con the American public and he succeeded in creating his own cult. I say he failed because his aim was to unite the US under his way and to defeat China's rise; creating a cult and dividing the nation to become the king of the idiots at the expense of America's race against China is NOT what he wanted to do.

So I see you've misunderstood the debate entirely. The question is indeed whether or not he's generally patriotic, and NOT whether or not he's self-sacrificing, which I would never claim.
2. Nothing about these businesses scream patriot. They don’t try to create lasting American jobs, they don’t try to address some of the common criticisms of modern american business vs. The common american worker. It is just him lazily putting his name on anything that comes his way.
They don't scream patriot or selfish person. They are the normal actions of a businessman, but a normal businessman when put decades later into the seat of the president is expected to be patriotic, by which it means that his aim was to benefit the nation, NOT to damage the nation to create his own cult following.
As an aside, no one ever named their companies “America Product/Service”? You’d really stand on that hill?
The hill is that you cannot say that because he put his own name on his own brand, that makes him selfish or unlikely to be a patriot.
I will now go on (because this is the funny stuff thread)
Trump Home (Furniture)
Trump Taj Mahal (Casino)
Trump Ice Natural Spring Water
Trump Mortgage
Trump Vodka
No less than 3 fragrances: Empire by Trump, Success by Trump, Donald Trump: The Fragrance
None of that is funny to me. Trump says and does many thing that are hilarious from a Chinese perspective (and disastrous from an American one) but putting his own name on his own products to earn money is among the least funny (or worthy of scrutinization) of things that I can imagine.
 
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broadsword

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China was a fast-rising economic superpower and would have benefited Trump's empire more than any other country if he wanted. He had the choice.

If Trump prioritized himself over the nation, why did he end business relationships with a few Chinese companies soon after coming into office?

Why did he not sweeten the China-US business atmosphere instead of battering it? He could have hosted China-US meetings in his Trump (insert his business), where his products could be displayed on the convention tables.
 

supersnoop

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What you think you know is wrong. Show me evidence and I will change if it is appropriate.

Solarz was, saying that he accomplished many selfish things and that makes him a genius. If what he did was an accomplishment from his perspective, then he must be unpatriotic because he did only bad things to America.

No, that's not the question at all; I never said he's selfless. The question is whether or not he succeeded or accomplished anything. To say yes is to say that he set out to con the American public and he succeeded in creating his own cult. I say he failed because his aim was to unite the US under his way and to defeat China's rise; creating a cult and dividing the nation to become the king of the idiots at the expense of America's race against China is NOT what he wanted to do.

So I see you've misunderstood the debate entirely. The question is indeed whether or not he's generally patriotic, and NOT whether or not he's self-sacrificing, which I would never claim.

They don't scream patriot or selfish person. They are the normal actions of a businessman, but a normal businessman when put decades later into the seat of the president is expected to be patriotic, by which it means that his aim was to benefit the nation, NOT to damage the nation to create his own cult following.

The hill is that you cannot say that because he put his own name on his own brand, that makes him selfish or unlikely to be a patriot.

None of that is funny to me. Trump says and does many thing that are hilarious from a Chinese perspective (and disastrous from an American one) but putting his own name on his own products to earn money is among the least funny (or worthy of scrutinization) of things that I can imagine.

Like I said, not interested in changing your opinion. If you think a guy who lends his name to a shyster urine test fashions himself as a “great helmsman”, that’s fantastic.

China was a fast-rising economic superpower and would have benefited Trump's empire more than any other country if he wanted. He had the choice.

If Trump prioritized himself over the nation, why did he end business relationships with a few Chinese companies soon after coming into office?

Why did he not sweeten the China-US business atmosphere instead of battering it? He could have hosted China-US meetings in his Trump (insert his business), where his products could be displayed on the convention tables.

1. He met with Xi at Mar-A-Lago
2. A lot of the products were not successful and were discontinued quickly
3. Many that did decently were discontinued after the whole “Mexican rapists” speech
4. Personal benefit doesn’t just mean economic, also just feeding his own ego
 

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manqiangrexue

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Like I said, not interested in changing your opinion.
Well, this is a debate, so you carry on for some reason.
If you think a guy who lends his name to a shyster urine test fashions himself as a “great helmsman”, that’s fantastic.
Once again, these two things have nothing to do with each other. Putting one's own name on one's own product made to make money is the most natural thing in the world no matter what the product. I don't know what point you keep trying to prove by continuously pointing out that his company bears his name on the many products that it produces. He does call himself the "stable genius" but what he fashions himself and the reality of things do not coincide.
1. He met with Xi at Mar-A-Lago
Yes, unprofessionally, he hosted an international meeting of leaders there but that's as far as it goes. He thought if somebody is to be paid for this meeting, it might as well be himself. It doesn't affect the things that were said there.
2. A lot of the products were not successful and were discontinued quickly
That's business.
3. Many that did decently were discontinued after the whole “Mexican rapists” speech
That's society; people who talk like that in public get caught and suffer the consequences.
4. Personal benefit doesn’t just mean economic, also just feeding his own ego
Precisely; he fashions himself a stable genius and set out to boost his own ego by trying to create the legacy of the Great American hero who put China down. That his ego and pride align with a patriotic cause doesn't make it any less patriotic. I stand by my argument that he is a failed American leader instead of a successful conman, at least during 2016-2020.
 

solarz

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I stand by my argument that he is a failed American leader instead of a successful conman, at least during 2016-2020.

The two aren't mutually exclusive you know. Besides, Trump's definition of a legacy is probably different from yours. From all we've seen, Trump's definition of "win" is whatever he says it is. So as long as he's got a sizeable amount of followers agreeing with him, his goal is achieved regardless of what the actual state of the nation is.
 

supersnoop

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I didn't even retort any of your latest points, therefore not a debate.

I carried on because I hilariously managed to find a picture of the Trump brand urine test.
If that isn't funny, then nothing is.

I also responded to @t2contra because I thought he missed the Mar-A-Lago meeting which was a really obvious oversight.

Also wanted to let people know why they might have trouble finding their favourite dress shirt from the Donald J. Trump Signature Collection last time they were at Macy's.
 

manqiangrexue

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The two aren't mutually exclusive you know.
They are not mutually exclusive in effect, but they are mutually exclusive in intent and success/failure is measured by intent. If you set out this morning to go to Walmart but got disoriented and ended up at Burger King, you failed in your navigation to Walmart; you didn't successfully navigate to Burger King. In effect, you did, but in intent, from your perspective, you certainly did not succeed. Can you understand that?
Besides, Trump's definition of a legacy is probably different from yours.
I doubt it; I made my definition according to his actions against China. He set out to make the US dominate China and every one of his actions agrees; what he had to do to save face after he failed is another story. What do you think his definition is, a 2 parter starting with being an American hero and if not that, then a successful conman with either being considered a success?
From all we've seen, Trump's definition of "win" is whatever he says it is. So as long as he's got a sizeable amount of followers agreeing with him, his goal is achieved regardless of what the actual state of the nation is.
I remind you, it's about what he intended to and set out to do in the beginning, NOT what it devolved into for a deranged old man who could never publically admit defeat or mistake no matter what happens. When he screws up reading a person's name on stage, he pretends that what he said is a nickname, for cryin' out loud! Can you say that's a win and he intended to do that, or are you able to understand that he made a mistake and tried his best to cover it up, so his gaff is actually a failure instead of a real win?
 
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broadsword

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Like I said, not interested in changing your opinion. If you think a guy who lends his name to a shyster urine test fashions himself as a “great helmsman”, that’s fantastic.



1. He met with Xi at Mar-A-Lago
2. A lot of the products were not successful and were discontinued quickly
3. Many that did decently were discontinued after the whole “Mexican rapists” speech
4. Personal benefit doesn’t just mean economic, also just feeding his own ego

1. How many times?
2, 3. So much for personal benefits!
4. Any different from other presidents?
 
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