Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

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Biscuits

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Since its unlikely US military will enter China and therefore necessitate a shoot down, for now, perhaps the best response is to simply act like Germany and Poland acted in the wake of the recent war.

Greatly increase spending and make public China's intention to build, in no uncertain terms, the strongest military in the Pacific to deter war.

In the long term, America loses far more from it, as China has essentially adopted a policy of being as soft as possible on America, America has grown its influence unchecked both in Asia and the two Americas. Now, for the future, US will have to contend with China as a real opponent instead of getting free walkover victories in Latin America.

And on China's own leadership, whether Xi manages to secure the votes to stay in office or not is his own problem. The govt doesn't necessarily have to play the tough card at home when they can also play the sympathy card, they can just act appalled by the uncivilised American coming in and disrupting the peace in Asia, claim that they didn't expect US to illegally enter China nor directly aid enemy terrorists etc. Basically like how EU is acting about Russia.

Some politicians may get sacked as scapegoats, but the population will rally around the flag and be prepared to help the new government to build up military. After all, even Xi had suspicious ties to America, so can be suspected of appeasement politics. I would certainly not mind if a fully Chinese politician with no foreign ties that's tough on America replaces Xi.
 
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mossen

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Despite much bitching from internet warriors, China is correct in letting this slide. Fact of the matter is that the US has a stronger hand to play (still) than China does. The gap is shrinking every year, but it's still not zero.

Only when China is self-sufficient in chips & has new pipelines from Russia is when a serious conflict over Taiwan can be entertained.
 

9dashline

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Can’t help but think this is related to the current circumstance. China is probably not going to restrain North Korea from testing more nukes.

This year 4th July the fireworks were so low they were barely above treeline

Go big and loud Kim!!
Since its unlikely US military will enter China and therefore necessitate a shoot down, for now, perhaps the best response is to simply act like Germany and Poland acted in the wake of the recent war.

Greatly increase spending and make public China's intention to build, in no uncertain terms, the strongest military in the Pacific to deter war.

In the long term, America loses far more from it, as China has essentially adopted a policy of being as soft as possible on America, America has grown its influence unchecked both in Asia and the two Americas. Now, for the future, US will have to contend with China as a real opponent instead of getting free walkover victories in Latin America.
It doesnt have to be either or, China can and should both "deal" with Pelosi *AND* increase defense spending to 5%
 

xypher

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Two weeks ago the Dalai Lama visited Ladakh after many years. China threatened India with consequences over his visit but in the end the visit took place and China did not do anything.

As time passes by I'm getting more and more convinced that this Pelosi episode will end similarly.
It didn't, China later invited more countries to participate in CPEC projects in the disputed territories. Indians immediately became butthurt and started raging all over media.
 

plawolf

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100% likely to be related.

Maybe that's how this will end. America will ask China to stop NK from testing in return for Pelosi cancelling her trip.

I wouldn't take that deal, what North Korea does is its own business.
Maybe take the deal, but after Pelosi cancels her visit and returns home, NK ‘tests’ a hydrogen bomb more advanced than anything even the US has.

Biden calls Xi to complain and Xi goes to pains to explain that in international relations, sovereign states gets to make their own choices with more freedom than the Speaker does to make her own travel plans.
 

siegecrossbow

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Despite much bitching from internet warriors, China is correct in letting this slide. Fact of the matter is that the US has a stronger hand to play (still) than China does. The gap is shrinking every year, but it's still not zero.

Only when China is self-sufficient in chips & has new pipelines from Russia is when a serious conflict over Taiwan can be entertained.

Then they are idiots for harping on about it again and again not only internationally, but domestically.
 

Overbom

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UK MPs planning to make a visit to Taiwan in December.
Colour me (not) surprised. In case anyone thought that this wasn't a carefully planned move:
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MPs plan visit to Taiwan as tension with China simmersBritish MPs plan visit to Taiwan as tension with China simmers

British MPs plan visit to Taiwan as tension with China simmers​

Britain’s House of Commons foreign affairs committee is planning a visit to Taiwan later this year – probably in November or early December – despite rising tensions in the region, the Guardian has learned.
Sources say the trip – which was originally scheduled for early this year but was postponed due to one member of the delegation testing positive for Covid – was intended to show Britain’s support for the democratically run island, which China considers its own.
 
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