Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis

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it is undeniable that the jingoist rhetoric here is absurd to comic levels, but it is also pure cope to think that this is not an important loss for China. 1. if they increase military spending or launch exercises it will only make it clearer that China is still too weak to defend its claim to Taiwan. The idea that the US is in irreversible decline despite having the largest area of flat, fertile, river-navigable, natural harbour-accessible land on earth is absurd copium. This event shows more Western interest groups that China's victory is not given, increasing their resistance against China. There is also increasing likelihood that Taiwanese soldiers will not surrender peacefully in the event of war. 2. After Pelosi it is not unreasonable to believe that Taiwan will host the entire Quad and NATO foreign ministers, perhaps in one big summit even. The majority of the world's public except for anti-Western countries are deliberately kept ignorant about the One China Policy already, and if public diplomatic exchanges increase, the public sympathy for Taiwan in the event of a war will also increase proportionally. Western media, although biased, is not so powerful that they can make people care about an unknown location like Afghanistan or Somalia unless many high profile, presentable events first draw attention over the years. With more visits come more support for Taiwan and more difficulty for China to create Fifth Columns in the west in the event of war. More exchanges also emboldens Taiwan with the promise of external support, increasing the likelihood of resistance in the event of war, or perhaps encouraging the name change to Republic of Taiwan
3. The Hong Kong rioters will embolden their sympathisers in HK and also other restive regions of China when they inevitably meet foreign representatives on "Chinese soil", so expect more problems as well.
 
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NiuBiDaRen said:
I was thinking the same as you, prevent Pelosi from leaving and making sure she passes away from old age in a Taiwan that is reunified. That would be the ultimate troll move to Pelosi.

I just couldn't figure out how to make Pelosi a prisoner of Taiwan.
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I don't think she would mind, given the sheer amount of money she just shorted and got away with.
 
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Fedupwithlies said:
Look weak when you are strong, hm?
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The issue with that is that this just doesn't serve Chinese interests. Looking weak would serve China if, for example, they wanted to try to destroy the entire US pacific fleet. In that circumstance, they'll want America to be complacent, to not upgrade to their latest weapons, and to ignore the Chinese until they commence their attacks.

Taiwan, on the other hand, is a place where China NEEDS to always seem strong on. The only thing stopping the secessionists and outsiders like the Americans from being even more forceful in their rhetoric is the fact that China could and will take military action that will cause far too much harm to make any attempts at independence worth the risks. If they seem weak or complacent or unwilling to spill blood and treasure over Taiwan, then unless they plan to launch an invasion in the coming two or three months then the CCP are only acting against their interests and imperiling their position as the rulers of the PRC and their legitimacy in the eyes of the Chinese public.
 
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LawLeadsToPeace said:
Like I said before, it could just be a way to placate their populace. Sure, we do have to consider the possibility that the Chinese may pull off a “special military operation”. However that is resting on the assumption that Xi is as bold as Putin.
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China's "special military operation" will not take place now. Before that happens, China would have to carry out at least one major military maneuver with live fire in exercises that could end up taking place tomorrow according to a few posts ago highlighting the tuning between 2022 and 1995/1996. In fact, these exercises are a great way to test how the Taiwanese military forces as well as Taipei's allies would react - particularly the USN/USAF, just look at the locations where the exercises took place, plus Putin before daring and launching the Invasion in Ukraine mobilized +150,000 troops in 2021 near the Ukrainian border in the April period and carried out exactly simulated real exercises.

Another thing, the mobilization is still taking place. This gives us a very interesting perspective on Taiwan's pre-invasion conditions.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1554503720817532928
 
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Definitely people are too emotional about "national embarrassment" or whatever. Yes, definitely it is an embarrassment (for now)

But looking at what has happened in the US in the last few years, riot in the capital, dozens of kids murdered in a single incident, a million dead from disease, yet the government doesn't give 2 serious craps about it.

Honestly, my favourite response would be if they had hacked Paul Pelosi and had some dirty laundry on him. This sort of stuff just sends western media into a frenzy. It would also discredit his wife and suddenly it just looks like shaking hands with another crooked Washington dealer.
 
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Tse said:
it is undeniable that the jingoist rhetoric here is absurd to comic levels, but it is also pure cope to think that this is not an important loss for China. 1. if they increase military spending or launch exercises it will only make it clearer that China is still too weak to defend its claim to Taiwan. The idea that the US is in irreversible decline despite having the largest area of flat, fertile, river-navigable, natural harbour-accessible land on earth is absurd copium. This event shows more Western interest groups that China's victory is not given, increasing their resistance against China. There is also increasing likelihood that Taiwanese soldiers will not surrender peacefully in the event of war. 2. After Pelosi it is not unreasonable to believe that Taiwan will host the entire Quad and NATO foreign ministers, perhaps in one big summit even. The majority of the world's public except for anti-Western countries are deliberately kept ignorant about the One China Policy already, and if public diplomatic exchanges increase, the public sympathy for Taiwan in the event of a war will also increase proportionally. Western media, although biased, is not so powerful that they can make people care about an unknown location like Afghanistan or Somalia unless many high profile, presentable events first draw attention over the years. With more visits come more support for Taiwan and more difficulty for China to create Fifth Columns in the west in the event of war. More exchanges also emboldens Taiwan with the promise of external support, increasing the likelihood of resistance in the event of war, or perhaps encouraging the name change to Republic of Taiwan
3. The Hong Kong rioters will embolden their sympathisers in HK and also other restive regions of China when they inevitably meet foreign representatives on "Chinese soil", so expect more problems as well.
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Disagree with you. Think you are misrepresenting your fellow Singaporeans' viewpoints as that of the whole world.

Truth is, Singaporeans are turds who enjoy the taste of Uncle Sam's rubber boot. @dengyeye @tygyg1111
 
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Topazchen said:
Lmaoo this is stupid. Where was that so-called strength during the Korean and Vietnam wars? Or does it go into hibernation ?
Again ,the war against Japan was in a different era, and now there are hypersonic missiles and nuclear bombs .The ultimate equalizers .
If Japan had nuclear bombs and the means to deliver them ,I'm sure you would not be taking about America's strengths.
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Even if America is on the decline, it will happen slowly from within (as this kind of change takes decades). By then y'all will be mellowed out 80 years old, hopefully tending your garden somewhere, and not arguing with me on SDF, loll.
 
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